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Got to love the timeline for subway lines

6-7 years for this phase is twice as long than the surface and triple the cost.

CROSSTOWN: Etobicoke residents will not have access to the Eglinton LRT before 2030

Well you reap what you sow. Had it been surface, or even elevated construction may have taken only half the time. Instead these Fordites whined and complained and forced them to plan it as a "subway".
Has noone learned already that subway in toronto is a snail pace project??? Not to mention the liklihood of bad soil just like what was discovered at Elginton/Yonge
 

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Funny thing is, expropriating those townhouses and putting the line in a trench would've been a cheaper solution then what we're going to be getting. The whole reason this thing is being tunneled is because Doug and his brother graciously decided to sell off the Richview Expressway lands, so we're ultimately wasting money at the end of the day, but alas that train is gone.

But as was mentioned, I dont see how this is news. Actually in fact, we probably wouldnt have seen anything on this stretch period until ~2040 under John Tory's original plan. He put his hand up and volunteered to take the costs off the provinces books, and had the city to take control of the plan, ultimately putting it on the city's never ending list of approved but unfunded projects.
 

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Funny thing is, expropriating those townhouses and putting the line in a trench would've been a cheaper solution then what we're going to be getting. The whole reason this thing is being tunneled is because Doug and his brother graciously decided to sell off the Richview Expressway lands, so we're ultimately wasting money at the end of the day, but alas that train is gone.

But as was mentioned, I dont see how this is news. Actually in fact, we probably wouldnt have seen anything on this stretch period until ~2040 under John Tory's original plan. He put his hand up and volunteered to take the costs off the provinces books, and had the city to take control of the plan, ultimately putting it on the city's never ending list of approved but unfunded projects.
Well yes but actually no. Even with those townhouses there is plenty of room to plop an elevated guideway down the middle of the road, and even if its was a problem, you can have it mostly elevated and just have a short cut and cover tunnel near the townhouses. As far as I know there aren't any utilities under Eglinton there since that land was always made for an expressway so such a short tunnel would be relatively cheap and easy to make. The usage of TBMs here are just a massive ???? moment.
 

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Well yes but actually no. Even with those townhouses there is plenty of room to plop an elevated guideway down the middle of the road, and even if its was a problem, you can have it mostly elevated and just have a short cut and cover tunnel near the townhouses. As far as I know there aren't any utilities under Eglinton there since that land was always made for an expressway so such a short tunnel would be relatively cheap and easy to make. The usage of TBMs here are just a massive ???? moment.
There is a natural gas pipeline under the Richview Expressway right-of-way. That is also why the stations will be on the NORTH side, because the pipeline is under the SOUTH side.
 

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Well yes but actually no. Even with those townhouses there is plenty of room to plop an elevated guideway down the middle of the road, and even if its was a problem, you can have it mostly elevated and just have a short cut and cover tunnel near the townhouses. As far as I know there aren't any utilities under Eglinton there since that land was always made for an expressway so such a short tunnel would be relatively cheap and easy to make. The usage of TBMs here are just a massive ???? moment.
As @W. K. Lis mentioned, there is a very critical Enbridge gas pipeline that runs along part of Eglinton.

As for the elevated guideway, good luck getting that to fly in this neighborhood. This is an area that was vehemently against an at-grade LRT, just try and bring up an elevated guideway concept to them. For the residents in this area, it would be akin to another Gardiner Expressway going up.
 

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As @W. K. Lis mentioned, there is a very critical Enbridge gas pipeline that runs along part of Eglinton.

As for the elevated guideway, good luck getting that to fly in this neighborhood. This is an area that was vehemently against an at-grade LRT, just try and bring up an elevated guideway concept to them. For the residents in this area, it would be akin to another Gardiner Expressway going up.
That would also include Doug Ford and family living in the neighbourhood of Kipling & Eglinton. We all know how his family is against any surface public transit when he drives around in his SUV.
 

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As @W. K. Lis mentioned, there is a very critical Enbridge gas pipeline that runs along part of Eglinton.

As for the elevated guideway, good luck getting that to fly in this neighborhood. This is an area that was vehemently against an at-grade LRT, just try and bring up an elevated guideway concept to them. For the residents in this area, it would be akin to another Gardiner Expressway going up.
That doesn't really mean much. At grade LRTs are typically much worse forms of transit than metros especially in suburbia so while its possible there would be a lot of NIMBYism, its not exactly a guarantee per se.
 

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Only 60%? Thats a tad bit disappointing. Does anyone have a map of where and where not the grass will be placed between Brentcliffe and Ionview? That would be very insightful
Is it though? It's about 7.2 km from the end of the Brentcliffe portal to the Ionview portal. About 1 km of that is the tunnel at Don Mills Road - so that's 14% right there. Then there's the 10 stops - the platforms plus the adjacent intersections are 150 metres. Add in another 100 metres each at the X stops that don't have adjacent platforms. And 200 metres where that centre track is. So another 1,900 km. So at most (ignoring crossovers and intersections without stops) it was never going to be better than 74%. Call it 70% max.
 

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Looking at that photo, only the centre and the north side is seeing grass as concrete is pour on the north side west of Victoria Park.

Maybe by the time the rails have to be replace and after removing the concrete, grass will replace the concrete, but will only have a thin area under the grass for dirt. Far faster and cheaper to remove grass and dirt to replace the rails and put it back in place. You still need the mode material around the rail for either way.

Don't expect to see anything place for the crossover like ION LRT has done theirs.
 

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Interesting choice for facts.

MLS covers home _sales_ -- with this being one of the few remaining "affordable" (with help of Bank-of-Mom+Dad) areas within easy reach of downtown. This is an area that desperate buyers will settle for, after being priced out of their 1st-thru-9th choices.

What MLS does not cover is _rentals_.
A quick check of GoogleSatellite will reveal apartments bdgs on Marlee, around Keele/Trethewey and Dufferin+Vaughn.
Best of luck trying to "gentrify" those apartment blocks.
Since I’ve started following the home page a few months back, once the property value is just right (like the central-east part of the Eglinton corridor), developers/rental companies would propose to tear down and replace those buildings with something taller, and would occupy a larger portion of the lot.
For properties that have enough land in the form of surface parking, green space or both, there would be new buildings/additions proposed with the original building being rehabbed.

in both cases, there would be gentrification, with the former being in the form of temporary displacement for the new build and the latter being that they have to endure the construction noise for the time it takes, followed by the settlement of more affluent residents where if there’s enough of them in the area, would overturn the needs of amenities and services to better suit those demographics.
 

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