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I think Poison Ivy would work as a great barrier for ROWs, I may just suggest it to Metrolinx in one of their town halls. Not sure if they would go for it though, without paying millions to their consultants to follow along with it.

But then again, maybe I should apply to be one of their consultants. Decisions, decisions 🤔
 

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I think Poison Ivy would work as a great barrier for ROWs, I may just suggest it to Metrolinx in one of their town halls. Not sure if they would go for it though, without paying millions to their consultants to follow along with it.

But then again, maybe I should apply to be one of their consultants. Decisions, decisions 🤔

poison ivy..?? thats weak... stinging nettles are the true deterrent!!
 

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I think Poison Ivy would work as a great barrier for ROWs, I may just suggest it to Metrolinx in one of their town halls. Not sure if they would go for it though, without paying millions to their consultants to follow along with it.

But then again, maybe I should apply to be one of their consultants. Decisions, decisions 🤔
You’re overqualified. MX has low standards to maintain!
 

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5000 residents in a location like that will only generate about 300 peak-hour trips in peak direction (based on Sheppard). The vast majority will be driving, travelling in other directions, travelling outside peak-hours, or not commuting regularly.

Also, you should be worrying about Yonge rather than Eglinton. Those who intend to use Eglinton LRT in peak direction and peak hour aren't going to be working at Yonge & Eglinton, they're making a transfer to downtown. Eglinton LRT usage will be naturally capped by passengers frustrated about Yonge line crowding; and as you mention the DRL will remove that passenger from both the peak-point of Yonge and Eglinton LRT.
Well, the Spadina Line has lots of capacity, I can see people just riding a few stops across, it won't take long and you'll likely have room.

Capacity will be an issue, the number of major bus routes interfacing with the line along is going to drive a ton of ridership . . .
 

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Well, the Spadina Line has lots of capacity, I can see people just riding a few stops across, it won't take long and you'll likely have room.

Capacity will be an issue, the number of major bus routes interfacing with the line along is going to drive a ton of ridership . . .

If Eglinton LRT is at crush capacity, that's at least 15,000 pph per direction, or up to 30,000 pph arriving at a single station to transfer (only a tiny fraction will have destinations on Eglinton or transfer North). What's the current excess capacity of Spadina heading south? IIRC, pre-pandemic it was less than 5000pph in AM peak south of Bloor (Yellow rather than green on the customer congestion diagram).


It's my assertion that Eglinton will not run anywhere near built capacity because the fire chief would shut down the line due to severe crowding transfer stations long before Eglinton gets close.
 
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Spadina line has lots of capacity. It only got filled up around St. Clair West and even then it would be busy only until Queen's Park with lots of turn over at St. George. This was pre-Covid. With the new normal, I don't think peak crowding will come back any time soon. Crowding only happens when there is a TTC incident causing line delays (passenger alarm, signal issues, etc.).
 

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"It’s all part of Metrolinx’s goal to provide environmentally sustainable light rail transit service across Toronto"
sarcastic voice If that is the case, I wonder why Finch, Hurontario and Hamilton won't be getting green tracks...
That is a good question. It sounds like the precedent has been set and Waterfront East LRT is expecting grass between the rails. Was the contracts or public reviews for Finch and Hurontario prior to the grass on Eglinton LRT being decided?
 

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That is a good question. It sounds like the precedent has been set and Waterfront East LRT is expecting grass between the rails. Was the contracts or public reviews for Finch and Hurontario prior to the grass on Eglinton LRT being decided?
Nope, grass on Eglinton has been proposed for some time - at least since 2014. That's well before Finch/Hurontario contracts were signed.
 

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I asked last year why no grass for Hurontario and was told by the builder, too much problems doing it. Will be asking again now Eglinton is seeing it. Gee!! they are from Europe where grass is used in the ROW there. The answer will be no.

The old saying is, the grass is greener on the other side of the road.

Time ML and all levels of government get on the bandwagon for pushing grass ROW as it meets the storm water runoff requirements as well environmentally friendly. It tell the car folks you cannot drive on the ROW or over it like St Clair and the Queens Quay.
 

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Kind of unrelated to the grass topic currently going on (which look great btw).... Is anyone else concerned about capacity issues on the Eglinton LRT within the end of the decade? Another 10 towers proposed a few days ago between 42-52 stories at eglinton and wynford. Also another development on the south west corner of don mills and eglinton got proposed yesterday (see link below) we don't know the number of towers but would be a safe bet it will be at least 10 of them considering the space there.

Ontario Line realistically won't be in place till early 2030s. Overcrowding on the Eglinton LRT will be the norm with perhaps busses during peak hours lol? I also guess they won't have an option and will need to make it grade separated with serious signal priority until Don Mills... we still don't know how many condos will be built on the South East of the intersection yet that development project is probably ramping up in the background before they submit their apps.


The ridership modelling (which included new developments) for the route is well within LRT capacity. If you go back and check it out, it's no where near the top end of capacity.
It takes around 3-5 years after breaking ground for people to move into a building. With the DRL running around 2030 I don't see there being any problem with capacity throughout this Crosstown within the next couple decades.
 

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Kind of unrelated to the grass topic currently going on (which look great btw).... Is anyone else concerned about capacity issues on the Eglinton LRT within the end of the decade? Another 10 towers proposed a few days ago between 42-52 stories at eglinton and wynford. Also another development on the south west corner of don mills and eglinton got proposed yesterday (see link below) we don't know the number of towers but would be a safe bet it will be at least 10 of them considering the space there.

Ontario Line realistically won't be in place till early 2030s. Overcrowding on the Eglinton LRT will be the norm with perhaps busses during peak hours lol? I also guess they won't have an option and will need to make it grade separated with serious signal priority until Don Mills... we still don't know how many condos will be built on the South East of the intersection yet that development project is probably ramping up in the background before they submit their apps.



The ridership modelling (which included new developments) for the route is well within LRT capacity. If you go back and check it out, it's no where near the top end of capacity.
It takes around 3-5 years after breaking ground for people to move into a building. With the DRL running around 2030 I don't see there being any problem with capacity throughout this Crosstown within the next couple decades.
I’d be amazed if we see more than 3,500 people at peak hour travelling westbound into Yonge station at peak hour once the OL is open. The trains will be very empty.
 

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