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drum118

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I suspect that the bidders who low balled ie crosslinx, bid on incomplete drawings and did not factor much for extras. They surprise everyone with an amazing number, but as shown, once changes are needed the dollars just keep on piling up.
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This is a design and built based on info provided by the city, Metrolinx and TTC, but you can only factor in so much for unknown before pricing yourself out of the picture on that info.

We have just seen a 1950 error surface unknown to TTC and everyone that will have to be added to the bill. It possible TTC knew about it and hope the low bidder would have to pickup the tab for the cost to fix it. My experience says Metrolinx will be on the hock for that cost since no bidder would assume there would be a structural problem during the bidding stage.

COVID-19 delays is not the responsibility of anyone, but a fact of life where cost will increase over time as well delay the project. If ML wants x opening day that requires more manpower, then they will have to pickup the extra cost to meet that date.

Unless plans are updated as work take place over the years on things, you will run into very few surprise that will cost more to do the work. One can look at St Clair W stations where drawings were not updated over the years only to have the Ministry of Labour shut down the site until all the electrical system drawings were updated after a number of workers were almost kill doing the work. Extra cost had to be pickup by TTC.

I have bid on x project based on drawing supply to all bidders only to find out once you open something up a great surprise that caused delays and extra cost is found.
 
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I think it's a well-documented consequence of any megaproject. Hospitals also have cost overruns, like the CHUM superhospital in Montreal. It's just that hospitals are generally less expensive (e.g. compared to the $9 billion Eglinton LRT) so the same percentage overrun is less in absolute value.

Lowballing offers, optimistic projections, unknown unknowns, etc. The bigger the scope, the bigger the potential for delay and cost increases.
 

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I suspect that the bidders who low balled ie crosslinx, bid on incomplete drawings and did not factor much for extras. They surprise everyone with an amazing number, but as shown, once changes are needed the dollars just keep on piling up.
Source: I work in the buildng construction consultant industry
I know someone who was involved in a competing bid. His response was that "they have screwed themselves here - they have left absolutely zero room for error." His organization's bid was a half-billion higher because they accounted for some likely problems that they thought were bound to appear during construction, but he felt that considering how the project has gone that they still would have been in trouble.

Dan
 

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Glazing Installation at Golden Mile, Birchmount, O'Connor and Wynford Stops
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Shelter installation has been ongoing across the surface alignment for the Eglinton Crosstown LRT, beginning October 21, 2020, crews will perform glazing installation at the Wynford, O'Connor, Golden Mile and Birchmount stop shelters. Glazing consists of glass Installation works for the LRT shelters.
What to Expect
Single-day lane closures will be required for material deliveries and collection at each stop. Eastbound and westbound lane closures will be implemented at the Golden Mile (Warden Ave) and Birchmount stops on October 21 and 28, 2020 and at the Wynford and O'Connor (Victoria Park Ave) stops on November 9 and 16, 2020.
Hours of Work
  • Work will begin take place on October 21 and 28, 2020 at the Golden Mile and Birchmount stops.
  • Work will begin take place on November 9 and 16, 2020 at the Wynford and O’Connor stops.
  • Work may occur from 7:00 a.m. to 11:00 p.m., seven (7) days per week, Monday through Sunday.
  • Work may be rescheduled due to unforeseen circumstances.
Traffic & Pedestrian Details
  • Westbound traffic on Eglinton Ave E will be restricted to one lane west of each stop location.
  • Eastbound traffic on Eglinton Ave E will be restricted to one lane east of each stop location.
  • There will be no changes to existing pedestrian routes at the intersection.
Transit Information
  • There will be no changes to existing TTC stop locations at the intersection.
Other Information
  • Due to the nature of this work, at times there will be noise around the work area.
 

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Some of these intersections are going to be problematic.

Birchmount and Eglinton has a gigantic hump where the track has been raised up through the intersection. If your car is too low and you are going too fast you will destroy the front of your car. We have a mazda 3 and have clearance issues driving over it.

Come the winter, snow plows are going to have a hard time plowing north/south streets through intersections with eglinton because in most cases the trackbed through intersection is higher than the north/south roads. I am fully expecting accidents or other issues this year at Birchmount and Eglinton.

My father jokes that if he gets up enough speed in his Dodge Magnum (it has about 560 HP) he could get airborne ala Ferris Bueller at that intersection.
 

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The yellow strip edge for subway stations is now been found every where where vehicles of all type stops.

GO Transit Platforms, streetcar stops with platforms and bus stops have the yellow strip these days. As bus stops get rebuilt or added, yellow strip are being added. It starting to happen to other systems as well.
 

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Birchmount and Eglinton has a gigantic hump where the track has been raised up through the intersection. If your car is too low and you are going too fast you will destroy the front of your car. We have a mazda 3 and have clearance issues driving over it.
Crazy. An unmodified Mazda3 isn't low by any standard. This will (should) be rectified.
 

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Some of these intersections are going to be problematic.

Birchmount and Eglinton has a gigantic hump where the track has been raised up through the intersection. If your car is too low and you are going too fast you will destroy the front of your car. We have a mazda 3 and have clearance issues driving over it.

Come the winter, snow plows are going to have a hard time plowing north/south streets through intersections with eglinton because in most cases the trackbed through intersection is higher than the north/south roads. I am fully expecting accidents or other issues this year at Birchmount and Eglinton.

My father jokes that if he gets up enough speed in his Dodge Magnum (it has about 560 HP) he could get airborne ala Ferris Bueller at that intersection.
it's very unlikely there will be clearance issues unless you're driving a really really low car, and you're driving really fast, in that case that's your fault. Left turns have been banned on eglinton at birchmount due to these raised tracks and space limits. This seems to only be a birchmount issue. other streets on eglinton do not have these raised tracks and are level.
 

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it's very unlikely there will be clearance issues unless you're driving a really really low car, and you're driving really fast, in that case that's your fault. Left turns have been banned on eglinton at birchmount due to these raised tracks and space limits. This seems to only be a birchmount issue. other streets on eglinton do not have these raised tracks and are level.
They raised the road quite substantially here. The Bus Stop had to be relocated because after the tracks went in, the SE corner had a steep incline that didn't exist before.

You can visibly see how much higher the tracks are than the road. It's like they laid the tracks ontop of the road here and paved around them
 

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