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AlvinofDiaspar

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On one hand, they can 'hold the consortium accountable' and try to get money out of the delays while keeping the line shut until it's complete contractually. On the other hand, it could accept a phased opening and open the line with some key stations missing but can pretend they minimized delays.

What's the point of P3 if you don't transfer the risk? It sets a bad precedent signalling to everyone that you aren't serious about it.

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What's the point of P3 if you don't transfer the risk? It sets a bad precedent signalling to everyone that you aren't serious about it.

This is Metrolinx's last P3 ever anyway. Union Station Enhancement, GO Expansion, and Ontario Line vendors have all said they won't bid on that type of tender for Ontario transit projects. "Alliance" bids are the new thing (much more partnership oriented) and that has Metrolinx keeping much of the risk.
 
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What's the point of P3 if you don't transfer the risk? It sets a bad precedent signalling to everyone that you aren't serious about it.

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You end up with an Ontario Line / RER situation where no one wants to bid.
(I do prefer that P3s are killed though. Never made sense to me that the gov would ask the private sector to borrow on higher rates then give them the profits instead of saving it)
 
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People will still be able to walk-in or walk-out of Eglinton Station for Line 1. Mount Pleasant is the closest station to it, so some people may do a "walking transfer", and not wait for a shuttle bus. Has anyone used airport around the world where the walk from the entrance to the gate is greater than the distance between Eglinton & Mt. Pleasant?
 

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You end up with an Ontario Line / RER situation where no one wants to bid.
(I do prefer that P3s are killed though. Never made sense to me that the gov to ask the private sector to borrow on higher rates then give them the profits instead of saving it)

You have to wonder if it makes more sense to internalize the engineering expertise and do as much as possible (save actual construction) in house instead then.

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Metrolinx CEO addresses suggestion Crosstown LRT could open without Eglinton Station

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Given media reports you may have read, Metrolinx president and chief executive officer, Phil Verster, outlines the transit agency’s expectations for the ongoing work on Toronto’s Eglinton Crosstown light rail transit route.
The Eglinton Crosstown Light Rail Transit (ECLRT) project is one of the largest transit expansion projects in Canadian history, and will bring major benefits to communities along the 19-kilometre route.​
This transformative project will change how people move across the city, reducing travel times in the corridor by up to 60 per cent compared with current bus service.​
Transit projects are delivered on-time when the contractor achieves the production rates they committed to and only through the proper management of their own logistics and operations. In the case of Eglinton Crosstown, our building partner, Crosslinx Transit Solutions (CTS), has not achieved necessary production rates to maintain the original project schedule that they committed to in their bid.​
We’re disappointed this project is late. Metrolinx is focused on ensuring that CTS fully meets its obligations to deliver a system as soon as possible – a system that is complete, fully tested and ready to provide high quality, safe and reliable service to our customers.​
Any suggestion, like the one made in the Moody’s Credit Opinion, that the line could be considered ready to open without the ability for passengers to get on or off at the flagship station at Yonge and Eglinton, where tens of thousands of passengers will transfer on a daily basis between the Eglinton Crosstown and the TTC Line 1 Subway, is completely a distraction and is not in line with the obligations CTS took on when it signed the contract.​
It is imperative that CTS now focuses on getting the project completed, including Eglinton Station, to the highest quality standards.​
We acknowledge the extended construction period has been difficult for communities and businesses along the corridor to endure. Metrolinx will continue to keep the public informed on CTS’s progress and what the projected completion date will be. It’s imperative that CTS now focuses on getting this project completed, to the highest quality standard. Metrolinx will continue to hold CTS accountable for these delays.​
It is critical now that CTS provide a robust plan that clearly demonstrates the timeframe for the completion of all of the remaining works they are obligated to deliver under the contract, including Eglinton Station.​
It is important to note that the project remains within budget.​
Phil Verster is president and CEO of Metrolinx.
 

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Metrolinx CEO addresses suggestion Crosstown LRT could open without Eglinton Station

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Given media reports you may have read, Metrolinx president and chief executive officer, Phil Verster, outlines the transit agency’s expectations for the ongoing work on Toronto’s Eglinton Crosstown light rail transit route.
The Eglinton Crosstown Light Rail Transit (ECLRT) project is one of the largest transit expansion projects in Canadian history, and will bring major benefits to communities along the 19-kilometre route.​
This transformative project will change how people move across the city, reducing travel times in the corridor by up to 60 per cent compared with current bus service.​
Transit projects are delivered on-time when the contractor achieves the production rates they committed to and only through the proper management of their own logistics and operations. In the case of Eglinton Crosstown, our building partner, Crosslinx Transit Solutions (CTS), has not achieved necessary production rates to maintain the original project schedule that they committed to in their bid.​
We’re disappointed this project is late. Metrolinx is focused on ensuring that CTS fully meets its obligations to deliver a system as soon as possible – a system that is complete, fully tested and ready to provide high quality, safe and reliable service to our customers.​
Any suggestion, like the one made in the Moody’s Credit Opinion, that the line could be considered ready to open without the ability for passengers to get on or off at the flagship station at Yonge and Eglinton, where tens of thousands of passengers will transfer on a daily basis between the Eglinton Crosstown and the TTC Line 1 Subway, is completely a distraction and is not in line with the obligations CTS took on when it signed the contract.​
It is imperative that CTS now focuses on getting the project completed, including Eglinton Station, to the highest quality standards.​
We acknowledge the extended construction period has been difficult for communities and businesses along the corridor to endure. Metrolinx will continue to keep the public informed on CTS’s progress and what the projected completion date will be. It’s imperative that CTS now focuses on getting this project completed, to the highest quality standard. Metrolinx will continue to hold CTS accountable for these delays.​
It is critical now that CTS provide a robust plan that clearly demonstrates the timeframe for the completion of all of the remaining works they are obligated to deliver under the contract, including Eglinton Station.​
It is important to note that the project remains within budget.​
Phil Verster is president and CEO of Metrolinx.
Sounds like my old highschool essays.
 

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What if there was a temporary connection behind the LRT station entrance - west of 2200 Yonge Street - wraps around, or a temporary hole in the wall on the south side, and have a covered pathway where it meets the corridor right by Cinnabon that links the subway to the current bus terminal today. Surely we could live with that for a few months. Then develop whatever thereafter.
 

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^Well, in fairness, the issue will end up in the courts. He can’t say much without prejudicing ML’s position in litigation, He has to make this sound like it’s the end of the world, there is no partial solution, and it’s all the contractor’s fault.

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This is a good point, but in that case I'd prefer a shorter message. Something to the tune of "Metrolinx is working with CTS and doing everything in its power to make sure the project is completed in whole, on time and on budget. That includes having the Yonge&Eglinton station in operation on the opening day. I am unable to provide more details due to the potential legal issues."

Same amount of information, takes about 10 times less to read, and doesn't create an impression he is holding his readers for fools.
 
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