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So, question... Consdering that you cannot walk from car to car on these trains, what is the emergency protocol? I guess the fact that this line uses centenary removes the danger of the third rail. Anyone have any knowledge on this?
The side doors have emergency releases, and the side windows have safety hammers located near them. In the event of an emergency, many of the same exit procedures as exist for the detraining the subway will exist for the LRT, with the added benefit of not explicitly requiring a power cut to allow people at track level.

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Hmm. great video of Cedarvale underpinning...mebbe....

If ION in Kitchener-Waterloo had a run-in of almost a year...well more than six months anyway...

One year from planned in service is about 12 months from now...

I can't remember the Gantt charts, but are we expecting vehicles to be bombing along the guideway to Kennedy in a year? And if Ottawa is short vehicles, then don't we need 75 or some odd in about 1 year? And then if this system is more complex and we have to keep trains separated, don't we need to see trains running for months in advance with no paying customers to test systems and traffic light coordination and and and etc?

It's only 2 years back, but the TTC ran the trains from Wilson to VMC for at least a month and maybe 3 on TYSSE and they had been running a subway for sixty-five years and the Rockets for about five years. Progress on construction here is significant, but there does seem to be a great deal left and little time to accomplish some of it.
 

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Hmm. great video of Cedarvale underpinning...mebbe....

If ION in Kitchener-Waterloo had a run-in of almost a year...well more than six months anyway...

One year from planned in service is about 12 months from now...

I can't remember the Gantt charts, but are we expecting vehicles to be bombing along the guideway to Kennedy in a year? And if Ottawa is short vehicles, then don't we need 75 or some odd in about 1 year? And then if this system is more complex and we have to keep trains separated, don't we need to see trains running for months in advance with no paying customers to test systems and traffic light coordination and and and etc?

It's only 2 years back, but the TTC ran the trains from Wilson to VMC for at least a month and maybe 3 on TYSSE and they had been running a subway for sixty-five years and the Rockets for about five years. Progress on construction here is significant, but there does seem to be a great deal left and little time to accomplish some of it.
A fleet of 76 Flexity's is overkill on opening day with plenty of spares. A 2-car train every 4 minutes in rush hour is sufficient on opening day. With the round trip time around 90 minutes, they would only need 46 Flexities. Add 20% spare making it 55 Flexities. The rest arriving late wouldn't affect opening day.
 

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A fleet of 76 Flexity's is overkill on opening day with plenty of spares. A 2-car train every 4 minutes in rush hour is sufficient on opening day. With the round trip time around 90 minutes, they would only need 46 Flexities. Add 20% spare making it 55 Flexities. The rest arriving late wouldn't affect opening day.
That is still probably about 40 more vehicles than are at Mount Dennis today. And vehicles may be the least of it. The interchange stations at Eglinton and Cedarvale are still very much works in progress based on the photos here.
 
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Hmm. great video of Cedarvale underpinning...mebbe....

If ION in Kitchener-Waterloo had a run-in of almost a year...well more than six months anyway...

One year from planned in service is about 12 months from now...

I can't remember the Gantt charts, but are we expecting vehicles to be bombing along the guideway to Kennedy in a year? And if Ottawa is short vehicles, then don't we need 75 or some odd in about 1 year? And then if this system is more complex and we have to keep trains separated, don't we need to see trains running for months in advance with no paying customers to test systems and traffic light coordination and and and etc?

It's only 2 years back, but the TTC ran the trains from Wilson to VMC for at least a month and maybe 3 on TYSSE and they had been running a subway for sixty-five years and the Rockets for about five years. Progress on construction here is significant, but there does seem to be a great deal left and little time to accomplish some of it.
A significant portion of that year was dedicated to vehicle burn-ins. So long as there is a section of corridor dedicated to testing the vehicles themselves, the line still should be fine, granted, extremely careful coordination is required.
 

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A fleet of 76 Flexity's is overkill on opening day with plenty of spares. A 2-car train every 4 minutes in rush hour is sufficient on opening day. With the round trip time around 90 minutes, they would only need 46 Flexities. Add 20% spare making it 55 Flexities. The rest arriving late wouldn't affect opening day.
Remember if the extensions to Pearson and Malvern are green-lighted, ordering more flexity vehicles would cost less.
 

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A fleet of 76 Flexity's is overkill on opening day with plenty of spares. A 2-car train every 4 minutes in rush hour is sufficient on opening day. With the round trip time around 90 minutes, they would only need 46 Flexities. Add 20% spare making it 55 Flexities. The rest arriving late wouldn't affect opening day.
Remember if the extensions to Pearson and Malvern are green-lighted, ordering more flexity vehicles would cost less.
It may start with 2-car trains, but could be extended to 3-car trains, should the need require it.
 

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It may start with 2-car trains, but could be extended to 3-car trains, should the need require it.
Eventually yes. The comment was made for September 2021 when ML doesn't need all 76 vehicles to be burnt in and ready.

Remember if the extensions to Pearson and Malvern are green-lighted, ordering more flexity vehicles would cost less.
I don't think ML needs to order more vehicles at the moment. They should wait and see which manufacture actually performs better once the Flexity and Citadis are in service. Unless they somehow get Eglinton West to open before 2025, they shouldn't have to worry about ordering vehicles soon. Longer vehicles might be a problem for the MSF so maybe a 30m Citadis could be manufactured if the Flexity's fail to live up.

Eglinton East could really just be its own line with longer vehicles. They are getting their own MSF should this extension be constructed.
 

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Really curious to see how long Metrolinx is going to take to announce that the Crosstown is again delayed. Sooner or later some inquisitive reporter is going to do some digging around and figure out that transit stations typically aren't a pile of dirt a mere 22 months out from revenue service. They better get out ahead of this, before the narrative becomes "Metrolinx is hiding the fact that their mismanaged, over budget, and already delayed $5.4 Billion transit line has been delayed yet again".

Knowing Metrolinx though, they won't acknowledge this until some Toronto Star reporter forces them to through a FOIA request. Just like how they conveniently failed to notify the public that the project was over-budget.
 

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For comparison, This is the state that Finch west, the most delayed station on the TYSSE was in 21 months prior to the line opening, in February of 2016. Station box pouring complete, and the shape of the above grade structure starting to appear. THe next two years were primarily finishes.

And the TYSSE opened with Finch West not fully complete yet.

While it may be possible for Crosslinx to complete by 2021 as a lot of their infrastructure is quite advanced at this point, I believe it's a stretch. Their test track is coming online on schedule I believe.. Which gives me a bit of hope. It's just difficult to believe that the interchange stations will be complete since they are so far off still. The other stations seem to be within the realm of opening 2 years from now, and the surface section certainly seems on track. The interchange stations are what give me cause for concern.



 

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