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Considering a small town to retire to in 2030-35. Recommendations?

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I was in Woodstock last weekend and it's a cute, small-city with a nice Main Street and great heritage building stock.

Vansittart Avenue might be one of the most beautiful streets in Ontario.

Ooo! That's what I'm talking about - well maintained, epic Victorian architecture. Never been to Woodstock, so it's on my list of towns to visit now!
 

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This thread made me realised how lucky I was to purchase my new house last year. This is what I wake up to on my property. VIA station is a 10 minutes walk away too as I can't drive and have all the things I want from the historic downtown. COVID has been a blessing for me like the woman said in the article. Plus people are so much friendlier in a small place, couldn't have found better neighbhours. I don't miss the coked up sex workers from Montréal one bit.View attachment 347343

Which town?
 

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Wonder how many Canadian snowbirds would head to this Florida town...

Inside the Isolated Catholic Town Built by the Founder of Domino's

Rylan Steele’s photographs of the planned Catholic community of Ave Maria will, for many people, reinforce the idea that Florida is a strange place that creates crazy headlines. But that's not his intention.

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Rylan Steele’s photographs of the planned Catholic community of Ave Maria will, for many people, reinforce the idea that Florida is a strange place that creates crazy headlines.

That is not his intention, nor is he ridiculing religion. Rather, Steele’s series Ave Maria: One Man’s Vision is a long look at the long development of an idiosyncratic place. Ave Maria was conceived of, and largely funded, by Tom Monaghan, the devout founder of Domino’s Pizza. Ave Maria, at the southern end of the state, is a place of geographic and spiritual isolation. Although drawn by the unique religious personality of the unincorporated town, Steele soon realized it was not so easily compartmentalized. The resulting work explores universal themes of opportunity, identity and money.

“It was bizarre and funny to me that people of similar faith would decide to move to this isolated place to live their lives,” says Steele. “The religious angle is there but so to is the economic downturn, the utopian vision and the creation and feel of what defines a modern community. Ave Maria is so new that the story hasn’t been written yet.”

Although founded in 2005, Ave Maria has come together slowly. The recession devastated Florida, and the planned community almost certainly would have failed without private support. Since beginning his project in 2011, Steele--who grew up in Florida--has seen the gas station open and the shopping mall remain closed. He’s seen teens filming homemade horror flicks in the vacant lots and worshippers pour out of Sunday Mass by the thousands. He shoots in the early morning and the late afternoon because it affords the best light, but even then he rarely encounters people.

“Isolation is obviously a significant part of the project," he says. "Often I can photograph in the middle of the street."

Steele describes himself as "not a believer" and says the number of times he's attended Mass in Ave Maria exceeds the cumulative number of times he'd been to church before starting the project. When All Saints Day provided a scene brimming with people, it filled him with awe but put him at an artistic loss.

“I couldn’t believe there were so many people. They just kept coming,” he says. “There was no photograph I could have made to depict that experience. For everything photography can do so well, it couldn’t deal with this. That photo would’ve taken away from the isolation theme in the work, but it was such an important moment for me.”

It'd be easy to look at Steele's work and think he's belittling faith, or the people of Ave Maria. Not so. He's got a higher aim. “I would hate for the photographs to read like I was making fun of people’s Catholicism — that reading is shallow," he says. "I’ve started to identify with the people living there and why they might want to live in a place where they know their neighbor, can leave their bike in the front yard overnight, and probably the doors unlocked.”

Most of the people in Ave Maria are retired, work at Ave Maria University or commute to jobs in Naples, 45 minutes away. The community is surrounded by small towns with starkly contrasting demographics. Its nearest neighbor is Immokalee, a poor community of about 20,000 people, most of them Hispanic. It stands in stark contrast to Ave Maria, yet underscores how faith and religion are a thread that unites people of divergent backgrounds.

Monaghan was raised in a Catholic orphanage, making him a classic rags-to-riches story. He is using his vast fortune to realize Ave Maria. The ornate Oratory around which the town revolves rises incongruously from the flat landscape. It leaves Steele wondering whether the place should have been built.

“It is a strange thing to do,” reflects Steele. “We could spend days talking about his ego but if we are going to do that we should also consider that he built this community for the greater good. Don't get me wrong I don't want to live there, but I understand.”
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Oakville! Yes, I know it's not a small town, and it's close to Toronto, but the old downtown is very charming. Was just there yesterday and it was very lively. I actually felt like a tourist!
 

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Ooo! That's what I'm talking about - well maintained, epic Victorian architecture. Never been to Woodstock, so it's on my list of towns to visit now!

Woodstock has a few lovely neighbourhoods outside the Downtown core, plus some architectural gems, but the downtown main street is not doing very well, with most of the retail down by Highway 401.

Port Perry, though it is smaller, has a really interesting little downtown, while walkable to the Loblaws "Independent" supermarket.
 

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Woodstock has a few lovely neighbourhoods outside the Downtown core, plus some architectural gems, but the downtown main street is not doing very well, with most of the retail down by Highway 401.

Port Perry, though it is smaller, has a really interesting little downtown, while walkable to the Loblaws "Independent" supermarket.
Visited Port Perry last summer, and I concur, very nice town.

Still haven't made it to Woodstock!
 

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My friend retired and moved to Picton, but after three years he's moving back to Toronto. He misses the city life. Not everyone is cut out for small town living. Small towns are always so glorified in books and movies, but living in one can be boring and depressing, especially during the winter months.

I have been to various cottage towns over the years, In my own experience, I’ve noticed some of people in these towns are unwelcoming to outsiders.

Small town living isn't for me, i would rather live in a smaller city like Guelph or Kingston, with trains and public transit and stuff to do.
 

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My friend retired and moved to Picton, but after three years he's moving back to Toronto. He misses the city life. Not everyone is cut out for small town living. Small towns are always so glorified in books and movies, but living in one can be boring and depressing, especially during the winter months.

I have been to various cottage towns over the years, In my own experience, I’ve noticed some of people in these towns are unwelcoming to outsiders.

Small town living isn't for me, i would rather live in a smaller city like Guelph or Kingston, with trains and public transit and stuff to do.
Living rural/small town is no different than living in a big city - you have to commit. Boring and depressing? Play hockey, join a curling club, snowmobile, cross-country (or downhill) ski. It's mostly at your door. Small towns are not just little versions of big cities.

I'm surprised your friend didn't like Picton. I think there are more ex-pat Torontonians than locals.
 

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In my own experience, I’ve noticed some of people in these towns are unwelcoming to outsiders.
That was my experience when I moved to Fredericton. Atlantic Canadians are superficially famously friendly, but not welcoming to permanent newcomers. I find downtown Torontonians to be the oppsoite, warily standoffish at first, but warmly welcoming once acquainted.
 

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I moved to a small town eons ago. It was difficult to find a job because I didn’t know anyone. Years later when I was still living in that town and hiring people, I always gave preference to the out of town person when skills and experience were equal.

One of the things I looked most forward to when leaving that small town and moving to Toronto was anonymity. No one knows you in a big city, right? Well, it turns out that Toronto is made up of a whole bunch of Neighbourhoods which are just like small towns, except you don’t have to travel as far for amenities and the transit system is better.
 

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