Ah, but you accused me of equating Pinochet with Chavez. Let's examine this fallacy of logic. In your original post to Mot you argued that Latin American leaders have a tradition of oration without referencing Chavez. I countered by saying that I'd rather Bush or Harper as a leader than most of the leaders in Latin America. You said that was disgusting and I countered that it was not as disgusting as Pinochet. You then accused me of equating Chavez with Pinochet.
Here are the facts:
1. Pinochet was a Latin American leader
2. Pinochet gave speeches
3. Chavez is a Latin American leader
4. Chavez gives speeches
5. I did not mention the name Hugo Chavez until you accused me of equating him with Pinochet (Yesterday, 9:04PM)
Now, based on these facts, how is "name dropping" synonymous with equating?
For the millionth time if I have to, Chavez is a democratically elected leader. Not a dictator. If the people decide he can have more terms as president it will be a decision made by the people. Not a top-down, imposed one. Chavez is loved Urban Toronto readers, dearly and vehemently, in Venezuela and all over the world.
Chavez manages to fool the poor in his country into loving him. Just like Peron and his wife managed to do in Argentina. More than half of the US loved Bush until around 2006.
Chavez has done some good for the country like increasing access to healthcare, but that does not outweigh his actions against democracy. His schemes to change the Venezuelan Constitution and threats of using the military for his own political gain.
I personally witnessed the food and necessity shortages in the supermarkets.
Keeping politics out of it....none of that detracts from complaints about the misuse of petrol and the lack of recycling programs (my pet peeve too).
As for Chavez investing his oil wealth wisely, he's done such bang up job that Venezuela's output has begun to decline for the first time.
You were given examples and quotes already by Chavez and his threat to use military force in the election. He wants to change the constitution so he can be President for life. Hipster already provided you plenty of examples of his misuse of power.
Another example, Chavez is cutting off funding to any area that does not vote for him. I witnessed this myself with a road they stop working on the day before the election because Sucre district did not vote for his party.
Esqualido- means emaciated. Chavez uses this term to show he is the ultimate power, even above the law.
Once again I said I am happy he helps the poor in some areas like healthcare, but he's not helping their future by destroying their democracy.
"Whatevs"- You have got to be kidding with this type of writing, it shows a lack of maturity and thought.
El Universal is reporting voter fraud by Chavistas. A proven example is one man voting 10 times.
No one posting so far on this thread has given me a concrete example of Chavez's supposed misuses of power.
I already quoted in an earlier post the map of the world recently published in the Toronto Star which shows which countries are up to their necks in debt, Canada definitely is. Venezuela is NOT. I repeat:
You were given examples and quotes already by Chavez and his threat to use military force in the election. He wants to change the constitution so he can be President for life.