Brampton Transit/Zum

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Probably not the best time for new Zum... over ambitious Viva held back YRT many years too... If anything maybe better to take a bus off 505 to put onto 5 because 50 minute headway after 8PM on Saturday might be entering the "death spiral" territory. 51 minute long route with potential 50 minute wait. The headway matches the run time that is the edge of the death spiral.


2020 to 2026 numbers on Brampton Transit's web site. I was just comparing recent losses to pre-pandemic so I didn't put those years.

Ridership

Yearly ridership statistics.

www.brampton.ca

The thing is, the 505 doesn’t run after 7 pm on weekends, so it really is just a terrible situation all around

Word on the street is late October/November of this year. There are a few Zum stations that have popped up along Chinguacousy, but many of them including the main stations at Sandalwood/Chinguacousy and Chinguacousy / Steeles still are not up. I believe I counted 4 stations last I checked.

Is this the only true “route increase” anticipated for this year? I haven’t seen any info about the PICs which tend to happen around this time of year

 

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Did you ever end up seeing the conventional artics? I got a peek at one via photos and really enjoyed it.

I was never lucky haha I think it might be done for good though. The photos I mentioned above were of a brand new New Flyer artic for conventional service.

 

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Great post! Honestly insane that Bovaird is being gutted like this. Service was already questionable before, but this is honestly a lot. Since the local route splits off at Airport Road, it’s going to be quite inconvenient especially on Goreway during the midday waiting 54 minutes (midday service was also reduced to 27 minutes combinded) for a bus. So to me, the sensible option would be to suspend the 5A Bovaird (at least until further notice) and reallocate all remaining resources to the 5 Bovaird since as Airport Road service is feels redundant in the grand scheme of things currently. Similarly with the 561, I feel like reallocating all resources into running the main branch 1 more frequently would be most ideal in the situation, (since as service currently trends upwards of 50 minutes during the midday).

Its sad to see Bovaird get this bad, and its every single branch that they run on it too. What makes them want to still run the 5A despite the 30 and 505 running sufficient enough service on Airport Rd with or without it. Why do they treat Goreway like an afterthought despite it being a high traffic route for employment and buses get overcrowded on this part of the route? I know people prefer using the 5 over 5A to get to Westwood its more faster.

Why is the 505 not running until 12am like all the other Zum routes, or not using artics, or not running at least 10 mins peak and 15 mins off peak? They promised the Pearson Airport extension, then they half assed it and gave us the 505A which barely runs at all. For a Zum route that services 2 separate corridors, and is a vital route to connect the GO train at Malton and Mount Pleasant, this is actually one plain ridiculous. Bovaird deserves much more better, its just as important as Steeles and Queen, and i’m tired of seeing it getting more worse every year.