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It's a shame we never put those streetcar platforms on College, Dundas, Queen, and King as well. Since they had direct access into the subway station it would have made it so much easier and safer for the masses of people who transfer between the subway and streetcar.
 
The Bloor streetcar transfer platforms (plural) had only stairs.

Today, I would have ordered double-ended streetcars, with doors on both sides. Then a single centre platform could be used, with stairs, escalators for both directions, and dual elevators to get passengers to and from the mezzanine. Or have the single-ended streetcars, do a crossover to serve the platform on the "wrong" side.
 
JSF-1 said:
It's a shame we never put those streetcar platforms on College, Dundas, Queen, and King as well. Since they had direct access into the subway station it would have made it so much easier and safer for the masses of people who transfer between the subway and streetcar.
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Queen and King are both too narrow and are/were limited by heritage buildings.

Dundas is a case where that was feasible, in that the City owned and redeveloped the land on both the north and south sides of the Yonge/Dundas intersection on the east side ( 10 Dundas East and YDS)

I believe there is enough room at Carlton/Yonge to do one direction of travel. Doing both would be very tight; though might have been possible had the City chosen to go that route when the buildings closest to the corner were built.
 
JSF-1 said:
It's a shame we never put those streetcar platforms on College, Dundas, Queen, and King as well. Since they had direct access into the subway station it would have made it so much easier and safer for the masses of people who transfer between the subway and streetcar.
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Northern Light said:
Queen and King are both too narrow and are/were limited by heritage buildings.

Dundas is a case where that was feasible, in that the City owned and redeveloped the land on both the north and south sides of the Yonge/Dundas intersection on the east side ( 10 Dundas East and YDS)

I believe there is enough room at Carlton/Yonge to do one direction of travel. Doing both would be very tight; though might have been possible had the City chosen to go that route when the buildings closest to the corner were built.
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They could always put the streetcars underground along College, Dundas, and King in the downtown. Hint, hint. Queen is already getting an "underground electric railway".
 
General Government and Licensing Committee consideration on July 4, 2022: http://app.toronto.ca/tmmis/viewAgendaItemHistory.do?item=2022.GL32.28
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Expropriation of 81 Bloor Street East and 40/42 Hayden Street for the Bloor-Yonge Capacity Improvement Project - Stage 3​
Confidential Attachment - This report deals with a proposed or pending acquisition or disposition of land by the City of Toronto (the "City").​
 
JSF-1 said:
It's a shame we never put those streetcar platforms on College, Dundas, Queen, and King as well. Since they had direct access into the subway station it would have made it so much easier and safer for the masses of people who transfer between the subway and streetcar.
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This is how Berlin does it to transfer from tram to U-Bahn. There are stairs and elevator on the central platform.
 
A report is on the agenda for next week's TTC meeting which seeks approval to advance design of the project to 100% and seeks to coordinate aspects of the projects with Brookfield's proposed changes to the former Hudson's Bay store.

As part of same, it seeks to award Aecom funds to complete said design works; and anticipates construction beginning in 2024.


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Deadpool X said:
What's the need of all that extra blue area under Bloor street? It doesn't look like it will be part of the new platform.
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That's the vertical circulation space between the Line 1 and Line 2 Platforms, which will be enlarged from today by at least 100%.

Keep in mind there will be a new platform for Line 2, so that means double the number of sets of escalators and stairs.

There will also be an additional elevator to the existing platform, and elevators to the new platform.
 
Deadpool X said:
What's the need of all that extra blue area under Bloor street? It doesn't look like it will be part of the new platform.
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Northern Light said:
That's the vertical circulation space between the Line 1 and Line 2 Platforms, which will be enlarged from today by at least 100%.

Keep in mind there will be a new platform for Line 2, so that means double the number of sets of escalators and stairs.

There will also be an additional elevator to the existing platform, and elevators to the new platform.
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I think what may be being referred to is the stuff even farther off, and a lot of that is massive new ventilation, which feels excessive and is something driving new subway stations to be much more expensive.
 
superelevation said:
I think what may be being referred to is the stuff even farther off, and a lot of that is massive new ventilation, which feels excessive and is something driving new subway stations to be much more expensive.
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The new ventilation is located beyond the ends of the station platforms - in the case for the east end of Bloor, at the intersection with Park Rd. There will also be new ventilation shafts dug at the north end of the Yonge platforms, but they're located within the property boundaries of the property labelled Larco.

As Northern Light wrote, the bulk of the excavation needed underneath Bloor is for the second Bloor-Danforth platform, and all of the vertical accesses that will be used to access it.

Dan
 
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