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671 Yonge Street (@Charles, future redevelopment)

AlbertC

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Looks like there are upcoming redevelopment plans for this row of low-rises along the SE corner of Yonge/Charles.

From the CWNA:

671 Yonge: new tower under discussion to wrap around Yonge Street and onto Charles Street East

Google Maps presents this set of buildings: Here
 

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That's some pretty forgettable architecture, but the problem remains the substitution of diverse and interesting retailers with long, sterile storefronts housing banks and the like. That aside, I bet you could get 50 or more storeys here no problem. This is a block from Yonge & Bloor.
 

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That's some pretty forgettable architecture, but the problem remains the substitution of diverse and interesting retailers with long, sterile storefronts housing banks and the like. That aside, I bet you could get 50 or more storeys here no problem. This is a block from Yonge & Bloor.
Very true. This is a pretty important block for the counterculture types and it would be a shame to see it replaced with something sterile. I highly doubt a head shop and Vapour Lounge would ever be allowed to set up shop in a new condo. They certainly aren't short on business so I wonder if they would relocate nearby. Places like this, though hated by many, are important parts of Yonge Street's character.

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^ There will eventually be a tipping point when we get enough new condo density. You can only have so many drug stores, dry cleaners, nail salons, etc. before the niche businesses pick up the remaining empty slots.
 

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Very true. This is a pretty important block for the counterculture types and it would be a shame to see it replaced with something sterile. I highly doubt a head shop and Vapour Lounge would ever be allowed to set up shop in a new condo. They certainly aren't short on business so I wonder if they would relocate nearby. Places like this, though hated by many, are important parts of Yonge Street's character.

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Agreed. There's also a restaurant and patio on Charles.
 

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Now there is no love-loss for what exists
AG once again writes off a stretch of the urban fabric in favour of height.

You do realize that right off of Yonge Street is WISH which adds a ton of character to this neighbourhood? I used to live on Charles right near it and it was one of the only things in that immediate area that brought pleasant street life into the neighbourhood. Not to mention there are tons of different businesses (a Noah's Health Foods and Vapour Lounge among them) that are important to many people in the neighbourhood.
 

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Another highrise to provide afternoon shadow on the few remaining green spaces in the neighbourhood.
 

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Another highrise to provide afternoon shadow on the few remaining green spaces in the neighbourhood.
I also imagine the people who live there will bitch about SANCTUARY, even though it was there long before they moved into the neighbourhood.

^ There will eventually be a tipping point when we get enough new condo density. You can only have so many drug stores, dry cleaners, nail salons, etc. before the niche businesses pick up the remaining empty slots.
Niche businesses (especially small businesses) can't afford commercial rents in these residential developments and many types of retail/services are barred from setting up shop in new condos.
 

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AG once again writes off a stretch of the urban fabric in favour of height.
now when one can't use "heritage" as the excuse since these buildings are outright ugly, "urban fabric" becomes the catch word A 50 storey condo is part of the urban fabric too in case you forget. And urban fabric evolves with the need of the people.

There is no regret over the loss of these 1-2 storey shacks literally steps from Yonge/Bloor. No matter what we are losing here (like a couple of boring chain stores?), the added density and living space is totally worth it.
 

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Gotta agree. People here seem to have a hate on for any developments on yonge, and I must admit, they often have points about heritage preservation. But to be opposed to a development simply because we are loosing a couple of stores, which will likely be gone by the end of the decade anyways, is just silly.
 

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Gotta agree. People here seem to have a hate on for any developments on yonge, and I must admit, they often have points about heritage preservation. But to be opposed to a development simply because we are loosing a couple of stores, which will likely be gone by the end of the decade anyways, is just silly.
Why is it silly to raise concerns? Every neighbourhood should just allow every development unimpeded and just lay down and let developers give it to us? That's not how good developments are created, nor is it how democracy works.

I have supported many of the towers going up along Yonge Street in theory. (Though their designs and the way they displace private businesses is problematic and needs to be addressed in our city planning).
 

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...the added density and living space is totally worth it.
Why?

And please don't give me a response that claims that density automatically makes a city more sustainable or more lively. (Because those are extremely naive claims which we see a lot of on UrbanToronto and they are untrue.)
 
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