Armour
Senior Member
Is it something that will be well received by forumers, in your opinion?
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15 Wellesley E (Parking lot redevelopment, Plaza, ?s, Quadrangle)
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Uptowner
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I hope you told them you were going to trash them relentlessly on this site if the tallest building is anything under 70 storeys. I'd say that's the least you could do to fulfill your duties as a density advocate. : -)
See, now you're wanting me to tease.
Okay, but this isn't a tease, just a prediction based on my experience with UT forumers:
Some will want it taller, others will be upset with how high it is.
It'll be too curvy for some who want everything rectilinear, and not curvy enough for those who want to see more wow factor.
Some will want a beefier podium with more streetwall, others will want the podium eliminated in favour of freestanding buildings.
Some will like it, some won't, and everyone will think that they're right and those who oppose them are wrong.
It'll be too curvy for some who want everything rectilinear, and not curvy enough for those who want to see more wow factor.
Some will want a beefier podium with more streetwall, others will want the podium eliminated in favour of freestanding buildings.
Some will like it, some won't, and everyone will think that they're right and those who oppose them are wrong.
70 storeys at Yonge and Wellesley? That's crazy talk!
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AlvinofDiaspar
Moderator
I like a number of things they've done.
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Ramako
Moderator
Going outside the local crop of firms alone is intriguing. I don't think developers would bother if they were just aiming for mediocre.
AlvinofDiaspar
Moderator
Not necessarily, given how a number of towers by establishment architects turned out in Cityplace.
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Towered
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AlvinofDiaspar
Moderator
Considering Wellesley on the Park was at 60, 70 might not be all that excessive for the site.
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stjames2queenwest
Senior Member
It is literally on a subway station.
Uptowner
Active Member
With that in mind...Since it sounds like the proposal is coming very soon and I am going to be extremely busy I figured I would just write my reaction to it now...
What is wrong with this city? Why is it that so few people seem to understand how precious these undeveloped sites are? If we are ever going to get downtown's population density up to over 20k/sq km which, I assume, everybody wants to happen (and if anyone doesn't then their opinion should be dismissed out of hand), then we need to take full advantage of all such opportunities. This proposal should have had an additional 30 storeys spread out amonst the buildings!
AlvinofDiaspar
Moderator
Manhattan is 25K/km2. Barcelona is 15K/km2. Is there a fundamental benefit to raising it beyond the 20K/km2 level? Besides, how will that density be distributed within the core? What's the benefit on over-concentrating the density on a few sites (and it wasn't like redevelopment opportunities aren't available)? I don't think you understand the implications of what you're suggesting, and you definitely aren't in a position to dismiss anyone's opinion out of hand.
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Uptowner
Active Member
Are you trolling me? I can't tell if you actually think my reaction to a proposal that has yet to be submitted and about which we have virtually no information was meant to be taken seriously. I was trying to be humourous, but if that is going to be the reaction then I guess I should probably apologize for cluttering up the board.
AlvinofDiaspar
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Uptowner
Active Member
NP. Happens to the best of us!