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Honestly it's not that bad : ) It's better in person those pictures don't do it justice, it's not great don't get me wrong but ... it's not terrible - the podium is, hmm, creative ?

I think the zoo comparison is a great one and it does make me wonder how things got so bad at the OSC - especially given how world renowned it was in the early days ! If you think back maybe 3 or 4 years ago - there were many articles about low zoo attendance and how it was struggling - I would...

Seems like desperation ... I hope Toronto never gets to that point unless they're mandating affordable housing to go along with the conversion. I'm not sure why anyone would harrold that as a model to copy. Maybe the thought is they do it enough it get's traction and then can start to decrease...

Is that temporary ? I'm surprised they need that with the reno of the MacDonald block ?

Right and office traffic is really key as well - so that's going to play a role. Office in this context can be anything (e.g. schools, ...) - something to generate day time traffic - often residents aren't necessarily working nearby so that doesn't help.

Anyone feel this is going to be a bit of oversaturation of "food halls" ? :) There's also union station + Eaton Center

Though it'll be interesting to see what they do now given the new commercial market ... I wouldn't be surprised if they try to make a case for demolishing it and replacing it with residential only.

I find this fascinating - can you expand more on this ? I don't really follow how you could waterproof less for equipment/storage compared to say parking ? :) I would naively think the same effort to waterproof would be required either way.

Between the two buildings, I'll takes ours too be honest :) - I like the actual metal material for the contrast vs the different glass.

I don't understand why the TPL is giving out free passes to the aquarium or other tourist sites - the concept never made sense to me. Are they getting a deal i.e. it's actually free to the TPL - or are they spending their budget on this ? I'm completely open to giving it to people who...

Right for the amount of content. I really wish they could expand somehow somewhere

I’m curious when this was built was there any allowance for a future expansion. Every time I’ve been here it’s been absolutely packed, so I suspect attendance is not an issue, if not the opposite. Mind you, none of that is necessarily incentive on their part.

Looking really nice in the morning fog, bonus cn tower shot as well

I mean I wouldn't exactly call that packed sidewalks, just sayin ... point stands regardless.

So I realize this probably means they are turning town the BMO IFL complex - a large conference / learning center - that's a shame.

Very interesting tidbit of history there, thanks for that ! A shame that didn't happen in the end.

Oh wow :) Ok I stand corrected - question, are they all conversions and/or demolish and rebuild ? Or are there some cases of demolish and potentially rebuild at a future date, which would be the worst of course.

I actually find this hard to believe - I'm sure there will be a handful of conversions don't get me wrong - and some demonlishions - but I'm not convinced it's going to be overly cost effective given how the condo market is doing currently - purpose built rentals. So to clarify, I'm just...

btw is the playground design shown anywhere ? I saw some concept art but it wasn't clear to me if they had finalized the design ? It seemed to be ambitious at least initially but I was concerned it would be scaled back like many other things.

There was a blog.to article stating that the office tower at that corner (20 Queen West) is going to be reclad - does anyone have more information on that ? I couldn't find another thread regarding that. https://www.blogto.com/real-estate-toronto/2024/05/20-queen-street-west-toronto/