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A possible great way to market the LRT is to market it as phase 1 and remind people of the Malvern extension. The con to this is that if extended and more riders are attracted it can make subway numbers look even better.

Half that amount really. There still would have been $1.8b spent on the LRT.

I remember during one of the Sheppard Subway town hall debates Stintz said they were looking at the BD extension. The idea for the extension goes back but there was a stupid period of silence between the transit city debate and the current Scarborough subway plan.

I'm not familiar with what transit is like to Centennial so I can't really speak to daily conditions. My point was that one of the biggest pro LRT arguments was that the LRT reaches more people (while the subway would have more users). The capture area for Centennial station must take up a...

It's not like the terminus at Kennedy has high density. Density along the route is a factor but ridership levls could still be obtained from alighting. The real damage with the route is the loss of the station for Cenntenial. There must be at least >15k students/employees in the area that makes...

So much of this doesn't make sense. There's a subway underneath but Willowdale residents fought against a station. The Secondary Plan for that stretch of Sheppard has stupidly low density limits considering its location. Residents still complain that car traffic is the most important thing ever...

I don't even think a final report came to community council. Does the Planning Act set a deadline for municipalities to respond?

Welcome to the race.

Panel falls from crane, lands on man's leg in Scarborough

The motion was to defer the 0.5% but was for all intents and purposes meant to kill the subway. It didn't need the 2/3 vote to reopen because the previous motion passed a few months back didn't actually set the tax rate but recommended it for consideration in the 2014 budget.

Subway survives for now with 23-22 vote to uphold Chair ruling on subway motions out of order.

On the other side of the argument DeBearmaker went off the deep end threatening demalgamation and attacking downtown counsellors on their high perches.

I guess. Of course he is smart and passionate about his work. I can't blame him for being frustrated as hell over this issue as he clearly believes it's not the best option and he's had to face some clear stupidity on the issue (remember that argument months back with Ford over how the RT/LRT...

Man listening to Matlow it's not that he's exactly wrong but his attitude answering some of these questions rubs me the wrong way. For example (notwithstanding right or wrong) he attacks the high ridership numbers as hypothetical but his lower projections are factually correct when both numbers...

Council now debating whether to defer the funding or not.

The debate's tiring but it's amazing just how popular going back to the old plan is. It's a great for these candidates to gain volunteers and contributions by appealing to them (not to say that they don't believe their plan is good themselves). Online posters here or on reddit or newspaper sites...

Someone want to explain why the Clerk has said Matlow's motion is in order? I thought revisiting an issue within a year needed 2/3 votes to open.

Project it up at the CoA next week.

Here we go again Councillor tries to reopen Scarborough subway debate

I saw a bus shelter on Kennedy that had a LCD next bus arrival time display. This was my first time seeing one, has the TTC been doing this elsewhere?