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My belief is that the OMB will deny this based on the height which is currently set at 157m with the TIFF precedent. Typically they will approve if the height is consistent with what is already in the surrounding area. Now one could arguably include the Ritz and Shangri-La as both are in the...

Close, but I would say that I am pro-Toronto and pro-good development and pro-bringing Toronto into the 21st century.:rolleyes: I would be happy if Mirvish and Gehry incorporated the warehouses into their design. But I know it is all irrelevant. Toronto is far too timid and provincial at the...

Yeah you're right anonymous , because this comment deserves a intelligent informed response.

My point is that the original vision that the city had in place for the entertainment district (maintaining a lowrise nature) is no longer valid as it is now a high rise area. Now every project is measured against the 157m Tiff precedent for height while more critical areas such as how each...

In all fairness, Keesmaat is new in her position and Mirvish was, unfortunately her first high profile project. The problem is that she should have never been hired in the first place. She is woefully unqualified to be heading up the planning dept. in Toronto. She knows nothing about dealing...

Yep Toronto lacks vision. Take a look around the system is not working. The city is besieged by the development of mostly mediocre crap everywhere. The DRP and City Planners have failed to have a cohesive vision and accept that Toronto is changing and work to adapt the rules to ensure...

Rules, now that is laughable. The entire ED has changed considerably from the original low-rise character the city had wanted to maintain. Those rules do not apply here anymore. The area has over a dozen towers under construction and another dozen or so waiting in the wings. So rather than...

I seriously doubt if approved, the area would have a slew of 288 meter proposals. Most of the available land for development is already spoken for. As for the TIFF precedent, it is utterly ridiculous to build everything at 157m. At that height there is very little to discern that from a 200m...

Or perhaps Mr. Mirvish and Gehry may reconsider the design and incorporate some of the existing warehouses into the design after all? Gehry has done this umpteen times with many of his projects including his AGO reno. If Mirvish wants this bad enough maybe he will compromise. The other issue of...

I love the circular shaped white building in the photo above. It reminds me of the Capitol Records building in L.A.

I am having trouble understanding how Bazis can build this one at 160m. They are claiming 9 foot finished ceilings so assuming an extra foot for duct work, and plumbing that puts the tower at 580 feet. Assuming the podium will have 1.5 to 2 times the ceiling height, plus mechanical of approx. 3...

The DRP will have a field day with this design lol. I can only imagine what they will say: "Remove all signs of unnecessary embellishments, ensuring the tower does not standout. At present the tower is too heavy looking and does not fit into the context of the area. DRP recommends the architect...

Haha, thanks for that Adma! In great form as always! The irony here (which has generally not been discussed) is that these buildings could have easily been demolished and turned into parking lots ,strip malls etc. in the early 60's if not for Ed Mirvish. Eventually Ed purchased this entire...

Haha I agree adma comes across as a 60 year old, not a 16 year old. Articulate perhaps, but also overly verbose and he has a constant need to draw analogies into every single discussion. Very knowledgeable and sometimes valuable member, but couldn't make a succinct statement/argument if his...

^^ agreed

At first blush, the cladding is looking good. I like the black mullions and the green glass compliments the dark green spandrel quite nicely. This is a green glass condo that has the potential to look good!

^^You hit the nail on the head with that statement Lansdude. Many members have felt the wrath of the so called "intelligentsia" types and their pretentious self importance and thinly veiled put downs. Their approach is akin to trolling as far as I am concerned. They are discussed on other forums...

Huge snore fest. Toronto doing what it does best, sucking creativity out of every design. This one went from mildly interesting to completely boring and sterile.

Thanks Rocket. It gets very tiresome when threads get derailed by a topic that is discussed incessantly in so many threads.

True 45 Bay is not comparable but the shelved Oxford Place is. The original proposal called for over 7.3 million square feet of office, residential, retail, hotel and convention space. So although just slightly over half the size of Hudson Yards, that development was very audacious for Toronto...