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Production problems? After how many LFSA they built now they have problems, its not like they're streetcars. Is this TTC only? Or is there other bus orders effected too?

They should've just used the same paint job on the 1999 LFS onto the 2013 LFS. Same with the 1999 D40LF, they should've used the 1991 D40LF demo paint job. I was hoping TTC would change the design once Byford came in; a new image, like what David Gunn did in the 1990s.

Surprisingly, (twice this year) the victim of the Yorkdale shooting is Asian. I had money on it thinking it was a Black person.

I'm puting $100 down that Sarah Thompson is lying! After reading the Toronto Star, a member of the Richmond hill Council says it was a setup against Rob Ford.

There was nothing wrong with the older bus stops. The older Stops catch my attention, this doesn't. They should make the red more thicker at least! And the maps aren't too bad, just way over done. The system map used in Mississauga, YRT and Brampton is what TTC should use. Colourful and not all...

Your right, look at what happen to Rob Ford.

It makes you wonder why it took TTC 10 years to finlly buy these buses? A whole decade, can anyone really defend TTC here?

. The TTC should lease or get a demo Articulated bus to reduce the chance of them getting a lemon. They've done this before. I'm sure TTC can use the existing 40ft they have and use them on routes like 74 and 120. Its a practice that TTC has been doing for years, like when they use 40fters to...

If thats the case, why didn't TTC order them 10 years ago when the Orion III were retiring? Some of it is just for publicity to get people excited.

Probably in 18-24 months, like other bus orders.

We are obviously talking about buses. He wrote 'Orion Buses' first in the same sentence, by the time he wrote 'articulated' it should have been obvious it was buses. And the cost recovery ratio has nothing to do with TTC not getting articulated BUSES. TTC didn't even connect the the two in why...

I assume TTC knows what bus they are going for, just waiting for the meeting? Can we at least see the bid results?

TTC has been ordering parts from NFI for other buses in the fleet for years now, and still hasn't ordered buses from NFI. I hope TTC goes with NFI, I perfer their buses than Nova. I don't want to sit in a seat were I'm sitting right in front of someone, so awakward and uncomfortable.

If i said all this about Miller I would be banned. I'm sure someone on here would call the police on me.

Its LRT, why do we need this thread? Honest question.

RF will not be recognize for this, nice try.

A known criminal that got elected.

Lots of hypocrites here. A while back people were arguing that the LRT underground is a subway. Then when Rob Ford calls it a subway everyone starts calling him a liar? Is the undeground portion on the Eglinton line not a subway. I need a clear definition, specificlly the underground portion...

Its all talk they've been saying that since 2002. Apparently every order since the 7400 Orion VII buses came, should have been artics....

An artic can make a sharper turn than a 40ft bus. So it will be easier for a 60ft bus.