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And the alternative to OL was to aim to extend the RLS North, for all we know we could have waited a decade for that to happen, certainly a worse outcome if you want relief.

If it was unknowable you could not say for a certainty that it could not be done, even if there is a curve directly after a station it is possible. We just don't know how to do these things these days, old systems have had this done frequently, even ones that have had CBTC retrofitted. There is...

The Rockets are not very good trains, and as everyone seems to forget, Greenwood cannot be used for open gangway trains at the moment anyway. There is very little benefit to using the exact same train, but plenty of disbenefit.

Of course it does not, but I have not really seen discussion about just using longer trains (can't go much wider), it's always just that they should use standard TTC Subway trains. The graph of when we need to build another line is linear. More capacity today pushes that back a few years, we...

The craziest thing is the whole "light metro is proprietary" talk, SkyTrain is certainly unique, but systems that we are actually building these days (new systems) are not proprietary. Look at a system like Dubai, they have changed rolling stock vendors since they opened without any issue...

Except it's literally incorrect, the system in Vancouver has room to grow. It's also the case that you can extend platforms in the future, it's something much of the world does!

Ultimately, it should be pretty obvious we were not getting the OL with TR stock, because it would probably cost at least 1.7-2x as much. Having relief far sooner is better than putting all our money on one line that was never going to fix crowding on Yonge entirely anyways. It is also a...

Never said they should permanently be underground, building a new line is a very different situation and again the only issue with third rail is not icing. It is also a safety hazard, and limits top speeds. Yonge Line Capacity enhancements should not cost a couple billion, you need to add...

Great way to spend a few billion!

You're actually incorrect here, here's a TGV:

You can keep maximizing capacity with no end, Yonge Line still doesn't even use the whole platform with the TRs. There is lower hanging fruit than even the RL for using funds. But we are not losing 30% and we are not saving 15%, OL capacity is stated at max of 30k ppdph, TR's are 36k ppdph...

Doesn't matter is other systems can be run better? Toronto is better than America so we are good? I think this attitude is exactly why we aren't good, we compare ourselves to an incredibly low standard in Canada across numerous things, check the "we beat America" box, and then go on with our...

I am not sure why they are overbuilt, I am also not sure why Edmonton a city with a fraction of our per capita ridership should be seen as a model.

The best plan is never the one we are building. If the line takes 10000 ppdph off the Yonge Line, which it seems it will. Then I would consider that a success. We cannot fix a broken transit network with one project. We do not need an 6 track corridor here for GO and Via, we just don't . . . .

We could just do what Viva does for their shelters, if we drove up to York with a crane and lifted them I am not sure anyone would notice

I know Toronto is a bubble, but there are a lot of agencies that are better at running transit than the TTC

Lots of great points here, maybe most important of which is that there is already a subway on Sheppard that is decently long . . .

This logic only makes sense if you are a city / region which is not growing rapidly. Sheppard already has substantial population within bus distance of future stations, which drives substantial ridership on other parts of the city. We know that Sheppard currently underperforms because it is...

The DRL plan was not as far along as everyone seems to suggest, the OL is past where the DRL was given they are doing full southern contract right now (not just tunnelling which can be accelerated as on SSE and EWLRT) Why? The truth about NIMBYs is they are usually a small but vocal minority...

Folks, we do not need an extra track for all 2 VIA TPH, we already will have like 30 TPH on a quad track . . . .