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Mihairokov said:
I'd recommend going back and reading this thread through the years to catch up on what you're alluding to, but I can't imagine any new stadium is forthcoming with the amount of money being put into SkyDome currently. They're guaranteeing another 20-25 years at SkyDome with the recent renovations. No other location would be better than the current one for all facility users.
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after the renovation was done Mark Shapiro said that is a temporary solution, always let’s not ignore the Atlanta braves are generating “Around $67M–$97M+ per year in revenue recently” with the battery park, no way rogers is going to look at that and say rogers centre is good
 
many7695 said:
after the renovation was done Mark Shapiro said that is a temporary solution, always let’s not ignore the Atlanta braves are generating “Around $67M–$97M+ per year in revenue recently” with the battery park, no way rogers is going to look at that and say rogers centre is good
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This required a 3-400 million dollar subsidy from the county. The appetite for this sort of thing is pretty low in Canada and increasingly so in American cities as well. Besides the subsidy, it's no slam dunk for the Jays to leave the best connected location in the province (probably all of major league baseball) and try to start a new district in a city where the land acquisition is much more expensive and the real estate competition is much higher.
 
Red October said:
The Jays moving out of the best location in all of baseball to some distant suburb with no transit access like the Braves did just so they get some development $$$ would be one of the biggest mistakes in Canadian sports history.
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Was fortunate enough to catch a game at the old Turner Field and it was a fine baseball park. Annoying that they would replace it so quickly. Baseball is close to footy in the way that they're able to stay in the same stadiums for a century+ and they really shouldn't move away from that formula if they can help it. It makes it far more interesting than the arena venues.
 
Red October said:
The Jays moving out of the best location in all of baseball to some distant suburb with no transit access like the Braves did just so they get some development $$$ would be one of the biggest mistakes in Canadian sports history.
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They don't want locate in some distant suburb, that's the whole reason they haven't made the move yet. They do want to do something like Atlanta did, but in the DT core.
 
C-mac said:
They don't want locate in some distant suburb, that's the whole reason they haven't made the move yet. They do want to do something like Atlanta did, but in the DT core.
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Where would that hypothetically go? In Atlanta the land acquisition was relatively cheap and there is a limit to the competition when it comes to 'urban' restaurant districts. It's simply a different context than a big city team like Toronto, NYC or Chicago. Skydome is going to be around for a long time yet, largely because they felt that that was the best business decision.
 
Mercenary said:
Best solution would be to re-purpose BMO Field as a temporary Baseball stadium so that Rogers Center can be demolished and rebuilt.
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The only way that happens if Rogers is allowed to by the lands rogers is on and buy the surrounding land area that equals to current sq footage of new mlb stadiums, mlse should have built a new area as well instead of 350 million renovation, look at all the current arena size and Scotiabank Arena looks like a small child and a ugly small child
 
Mercenary said:
Best solution would be to re-purpose BMO Field as a temporary Baseball stadium so that Rogers Center can be demolished and rebuilt.
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Everyone here is forgetting to account for how much it would cost to demolish the SkyDome. When it was built, there was talk about how much reinforced concrete and steel were in the structure, that it would be there forever. It would need to be demolished with explosives. When it was in the middle of nowhere, that seamed feasible but when talk about a new stadium started to percolate, a review of the structure and its new proximity to a community of glass towers made the explosive detonation impossible and taking it down piece by piece would cost hundreds of millions, just to clear the space for a new stadium, let alone the cost of the stadium. Hence why they opted to update the existing stadium. The SkyDome isn't going anywhere in our lifetimes. The Jays may move, but the stadium will outlive us.
 
many7695 said:
The only way that happens if Rogers is allowed to by the lands rogers is on and buy the surrounding land area that equals to current sq footage of new mlb stadiums, mlse should have built a new area as well instead of 350 million renovation, look at all the current arena size and Scotiabank Arena looks like a small child and a ugly small child
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Not to derail this thread but I do not agree with you on Scotiabank Arena. I have been to many of the modern arenas and Scotiabank holds its own. I love how it is weaved into the city fabric, and it is actually one of the larger arenas by capacity.
 
nightstreak said:
Everyone here is forgetting to account for how much it would cost to demolish the SkyDome. When it was built, there was talk about how much reinforced concrete and steel were in the structure, that it would be there forever. It would need to be demolished with explosives. When it was in the middle of nowhere, that seamed feasible but when talk about a new stadium started to percolate, a review of the structure and its new proximity to a community of glass towers made the explosive detonation impossible and taking it down piece by piece would cost hundreds of millions, just to clear the space for a new stadium, let alone the cost of the stadium. Hence why they opted to update the existing stadium. The SkyDome isn't going anywhere in our lifetimes. The Jays may move, but the stadium will outlive us.
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and that's fine with me. I quite like the old girl!
 
Civdis said:
and that's fine with me. I quite like the old girl!
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I'm happy with it there too. It needs a little work on the outside but having gone to games pre and post renovation, it's an entirely new experience. Shapiro pulled it off. The next big move will be to transform the surrounding area into a district people want to spend time in, not a concrete wasteland.
 
nightstreak said:
Everyone here is forgetting to account for how much it would cost to demolish the SkyDome. When it was built, there was talk about how much reinforced concrete and steel were in the structure, that it would be there forever. It would need to be demolished with explosives. When it was in the middle of nowhere, that seamed feasible but when talk about a new stadium started to percolate, a review of the structure and its new proximity to a community of glass towers made the explosive detonation impossible and taking it down piece by piece would cost hundreds of millions, just to clear the space for a new stadium, let alone the cost of the stadium. Hence why they opted to update the existing stadium. The SkyDome isn't going anywhere in our lifetimes. The Jays may move, but the stadium will outlive us.
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I just wish there was a way they could some how just remove a bit of the height on the walls. At this point I think that's the biggest issue. That's what makes it feel like you're still indoor sometimes even what the roof is open.
 
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