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SubHuman said:
What other platform? I didn't know there was a different one they could use.
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At one time, at Mt. Dennis Station, had to board a morning southbound UPX train on what would have been the northbound platform. The return trip was on the northbound train, as I had expected.

Unfortunately, the signage at the foot of the steps telling me which platform to use for the southbound train was hard to follow or understand. When I got up to the platform, had to read the overhead digital sign a couple times. Waiting near the stairs until I saw the approaching UPX southbound train to confirm to myself.
 
Yes the signage is supposed to be for when the UP Express has to use another platform at Union Station. Stairs and lifts are staged at various platforms for this reason, and at Malton GO as well:

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There are identical looking signs that say “UP Express is currently suspended”, those are the signs that should be used in this case, someone made a mistake.
 

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hw621 said:
How did they accept the construction at the first place?
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It was a Kathleen Wynne vanity project that was rushed to completion as a commitment to house the Pan-Am Games.

There was a lot of catchup work after it opened just before said games, pretty last-minute in execution.

Remember Wynne bragging about how it was completed "on time, on budget"? At the same time that Georgetown South's scope was cut back to keep things within the broader GTS/UPX envelope?

It's hard to say whether the original design was up to snuff - maybe it looked fine on paper but some real-world realities were overlooked. Or maybe it was a good design that was badly constructed. I have seen academic papers describing the design, won't bother looking for them, but apparently some novel thinking was applied.

- Paul
 
crs1026 said:
It was a Kathleen Wynne vanity project that was rushed to completion as a commitment to house the Pan-Am Games.

There was a lot of catchup work after it opened just before said games, pretty last-minute in execution.

Remember Wynne bragging about how it was completed "on time, on budget"? At the same time that Georgetown South's scope was cut back to keep things within the broader GTS/UPX envelope?

It's hard to say whether the original design was up to snuff - maybe it looked fine on paper but some real-world realities were overlooked. Or maybe it was a good design that was badly constructed. I have seen academic papers describing the design, won't bother looking for them, but apparently some novel thinking was applied.

- Paul
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I wonder if they could keep one track in service and reduce headways to the airport to 30 minutes while they fix the concrete under the other track?

They might have to rip up the concrete under the tracks and re-pour new concrete to fix it permanently.
 
crs1026 said:
It was a Kathleen Wynne vanity project that was rushed to completion as a commitment to house the Pan-Am Games.

There was a lot of catchup work after it opened just before said games, pretty last-minute in execution.

Remember Wynne bragging about how it was completed "on time, on budget"? At the same time that Georgetown South's scope was cut back to keep things within the broader GTS/UPX envelope?

It's hard to say whether the original design was up to snuff - maybe it looked fine on paper but some real-world realities were overlooked. Or maybe it was a good design that was badly constructed. I have seen academic papers describing the design, won't bother looking for them, but apparently some novel thinking was applied.

- Paul
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thats what usually happens with the lowest bidder.... lots of corners cut i can imagine to meet the deadlines.
 
cplchanb said:
thats what usually happens with the lowest bidder.... lots of corners cut i can imagine to meet the deadlines.
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It also seems relocating the station to where the main line is would result in a 10 minute shuttle ride which defeats the purpose of the whole thing. I wonder if it's just the curved parts or the whole elevated line?
 
crs1026 said:
It was a Kathleen Wynne vanity project that was rushed to completion as a commitment to house the Pan-Am Games.

There was a lot of catchup work after it opened just before said games, pretty last-minute in execution.

Remember Wynne bragging about how it was completed "on time, on budget"? At the same time that Georgetown South's scope was cut back to keep things within the broader GTS/UPX envelope?

It's hard to say whether the original design was up to snuff - maybe it looked fine on paper but some real-world realities were overlooked. Or maybe it was a good design that was badly constructed. I have seen academic papers describing the design, won't bother looking for them, but apparently some novel thinking was applied.

- Paul
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For anyone new here or was too young at the time, can you remind us the elements that were cut back in the GTS scope? I think I know but rather than guess I think you got the best memory for this.
 
I guess going to a ballast model would increase the weight and would not be supported? And the reason why they didnt do that to begin with was because they would need to make the concrete more sturdy to support the weight of the ballast and they would be too heavy to lift the pre-cast sections.
 
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