Toronto Wabash Community Centre | 27m | 4s | City of Toronto | Diamond Schmitt

Towered said:
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I’ll give you a hint…..when I bought on spec at Robert Watson Lofts up the street in the very early 2000’s, the developer was touting it as a great neighbourhood amenity to come soon……I waited 3 years on spec to move into Robert Watson. I lived there 5 years before selling. I’ve lived in my new place 12 years this year. I’m afraid we will all look like the pic you posted before it’s ever completed 😞
 
Site Plan Approval submitted on July 15:

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ceaz40 said:
I’ll give you a hint…..when I bought on spec at Robert Watson Lofts up the street in the very early 2000’s, the developer was touting it as a great neighbourhood amenity to come soon……I waited 3 years on spec to move into Robert Watson. I lived there 5 years before selling. I’ve lived in my new place 12 years this year. I’m afraid we will all look like the pic you posted before it’s ever completed 😞
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There have been talks/plans/hopes since the 1980s. 40 years on and construction hasn't even started...
 
I'll remain skeptical until I see shovels in the ground but here's what the city's website has for the current project timeline. Not sure when it was last updated:

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Wabash Community Recreation Centre

The City is planning a new community recreation centre at the southeast corner of Sorauren Avenue Park, adaptively reusing the existing former Canadian Linseed Oil Mills Ltd. building (1910).
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Project Timeline​

  • Summer 2018: Public meeting to introduce the project
  • December 2019: Design team hired
  • Summer 2020 to Summer 2023: Community engagement and design development
    • Summer 2020 to Summer 2021: Community Engagement Phase A, Towards a Vision
    • Fall 2021 to Fall 2022: Community Engagement Phase B, Exploring Design Options
    • Spring to Summer 2023: Community Engagement Phase C, Setting the Direction
  • 2023 to 2025: Detailed design (current phase)
  • 2026: Hire a construction team
  • 2026 to 2029: Construction
The timeline is subject to change. Text in bold indicates the current project phase.
 
AlbertC said:
I'll remain skeptical until I see shovels in the ground but here's what the city's website has for the current project timeline. Not sure when it was last updated:

www.toronto.ca

Wabash Community Recreation Centre

The City is planning a new community recreation centre at the southeast corner of Sorauren Avenue Park, adaptively reusing the existing former Canadian Linseed Oil Mills Ltd. building (1910).
www.toronto.ca www.toronto.ca

Project Timeline​

  • Summer 2018: Public meeting to introduce the project
  • December 2019: Design team hired
  • Summer 2020 to Summer 2023: Community engagement and design development
    • Summer 2020 to Summer 2021: Community Engagement Phase A, Towards a Vision
    • Fall 2021 to Fall 2022: Community Engagement Phase B, Exploring Design Options
    • Spring to Summer 2023: Community Engagement Phase C, Setting the Direction
  • 2023 to 2025: Detailed design (current phase)
  • 2026: Hire a construction team
  • 2026 to 2029: Construction
The timeline is subject to change. Text in bold indicates the current project phase.
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Three years to construct a building that is no more than 3 storeys...........

Who does Parks and Rec. think they are? Pemberton?
 
...it's taking them 8 years of umming and ahhing about this thing. Surely we can wait 3 more! /s
 
@AlexBozikovic discussing the implications of excessive consultation, using Wabash Community Centre as an example.

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What is the cost of consultation?

Toronto recreation centre that started as $40-million project in 2016 has ballooned to nearly $113-million before construction even starts
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Small excerpt (paywall):

It is not. Rather, it shows what happens when there are too many cooks in the community kitchen. The building is shaping up as a gawky monolith. Stacking the gym on the third floor has added extra hallways and stairs; meanwhile the lobby, which should anchor public life, seems cramped. Drawings suggest the interiors will feature the antiseptic corporate modernism of so many Canadian public buildings.

Instead, the city could have followed the example of jurisdictions such as Montreal, run a tight design competition, and hired exceptional architects and landscape architects. Neighbours could have participated alongside experts, asking deeper questions: What should a community building do and how can it be easily adapted over the 75 years of its life?
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I see similar risks for the Ramsden Park Community Recreation Centre where PFR has proposed three rounds of community engagement.
 
Towered said:
It's starting construction this year apparently 😆
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