Toronto Eglinton Line 5 | ?m | ?s | Metrolinx | Arcadis

[McGillicuddy]

Great, write all that on a postcard and mail it to Queen's Park. Doug Ford could use the kindling.

 

[jordanmkasla2009]

But if that was the problem, why wouldn't they have opened the underground part of the line already? After all, the yard is connected to the tunneled section, not the open-air section.

And it doesn't account for the crews that still seem to be at work at the various stations.

It doesn't seem to be that TSP is the show-stopper here. There are other issues at play with the line. Which is incredibly frustrating considering the additional time that they've already had to resolve them.

Dan

I do know that according to Steve Munro, they are making staffing and crewing adjustments on Line 1, 5, and 6 this coming board period adding "Service Assistance Crews". So my guess is the issues they want to fix are more operational in nature than anything else.

 

[Amare]

Great, write all that on a postcard and mail it to Queen's Park. Doug Ford could use the kindling.

It's touching that we're assuming Doug Ford can read and comprehend...

We already know he cant do basic arithmetic, so if he cant do that I highly doubt he can read. I doubt he's read any Briefing Note that's ever been left for him in his life.

 

[duty free]

Well that's what should have be done in the first place but it's too late now. That, however, does not mean this line cannot be salvaged as all it takes is some political will. First, get rid of some of these stops along the eastern portion. It should have the same, or even less, the stop distances as the underground sections. Second, give the line 100% street priority. With today's technology there is absolutely NO reason why any of trains should be stopping for any red lights. The only stopping should be to pick up passengers and everything else should be free flowing. Third, raise the max speed to 70 km/hr on street running sections. Remember these are separated lanes so that they can go faster than cars safely. That's the whole point of having them separated in the first place. If they have to go the same speed as the cars, they could have just painted a lane and been done with.

I predict that in the next 20-40 years they'll rebuild the eastern portion of Line 5 & all of Line 6. The conversation will start to enter the public realm post Ontario Line once the GP sees what could've been.

 

[Bojaxs]

I predict that in the next 20-40 years they'll rebuild the eastern portion of Line 5 & all of Line 6. The conversation will start to enter the public realm post Ontario Line once the GP sees what could've been.

I hope so. Toronto is crying out for subways. Toronto has some of the highest transit ridership numbers out of all North American cities. Yet Toronto ranks 8th or 9th in terms of subway network size with 76.9kms of track (Line 1,2, & 4). (Source, Google AI)

All the while American cities like Chicago (165.4km), Washington DC (208km) and even Atlanta (77km) have larger subway networks, yet their ridership numbers pales in comparison to Toronto's.

So the cities that don't want subways, get subways. While the cities that do want subways, don't get subways.

 

[micheal_can]

I predict that in the next 20-40 years they'll rebuild the eastern portion of Line 5 & all of Line 6. The conversation will start to enter the public realm post Ontario Line once the GP sees what could've been.

The thing is, if they were to put crossing arms at each intersection, then it could run less like a streetcar and more like an LRT should.

 

[Steve X]

The thing is, if they were to put crossing arms at each intersection, then it could run less like a streetcar and more like an LRT should.

I wonder how many of those arms will be out of service within one year time in GTA traffic.

 

[duty free]

I hope so. Toronto is crying out for subways. Toronto has some of the highest transit ridership numbers out of all North American cities. Yet Toronto ranks 8th or 9th in terms of subway network size with 76.9kms of track (Line 1,2, & 4). (Source, Google AI)

All the while American cities like Chicago (165.4km), Washington DC (208km) and even Atlanta (77km) have larger subway networks, yet their ridership numbers pales in comparison to Toronto's.

So the cities that don't want subways, get subways. While the cities that do want subways, don't get subways.


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I agree Toronto is in desperate need of more subway lines. If Toronto built more they would be immensely successful in gaining ridership, but we’re a Grand Paris Express level of network expansion to reach a comparable system to a city like Madrid. We will most likely never have a system that approaches 300km.

Regarding the other systems in the US you mentioned, they’re more like an S-Bahn than our subway system, which like New York’s is highly frequent. Imagine running three trains an hour on Line 1 or 2 during peak hours. That’s what those systems are like. At best it’s a train every 5 or 10 minutes. The TTC does provide a good service, much better than Chicago or DC despite their more expansive networks. Toronto is lacking the network, but they are lacking the frequency.

 

[ARG1]

I predict that in the next 20-40 years they'll rebuild the eastern portion of Line 5 & all of Line 6. The conversation will start to enter the public realm post Ontario Line once the GP sees what could've been.

Line 5 maybe, Line 6 definitely not. I honestly think we'd sooner see a Steeles Light Metro that extends into Brampton than some sort of Line 6 metro conversion.

 

[duty free]

The thing is, if they were to put crossing arms at each intersection, then it could run less like a streetcar and more like an LRT should.

They did that on QQ. With a streetcar route or more specifically a tunnel portal. There is no limit to amount of poor drivers here and every year it gets worse. Something has to change.

 

[micheal_can]

I wonder how many of those arms will be out of service within one year time in GTA traffic.

Cameras that will help to issue fines.

They did that on QQ. With a streetcar route or more specifically a tunnel portal. There is no limit to amount of poor drivers here and every year it gets worse. Something has to change.

QQ?

 

[duty free]

Cameras that will help to issue fines.


QQ?

Queens Quay

 

[micheal_can]

They did that on QQ. With a streetcar route or more specifically a tunnel portal. There is no limit to amount of poor drivers here and every year it gets worse. Something has to change.

Queens Quay

Has that stopped them now? Or, even with that do they still enter?

 

[Steve X]

Has that stopped them now? Or, even with that do they still enter?

This arms are sometimes not functionally. I’m not exactly sure of their current situation

 

[micheal_can]

This arms are sometimes not functionally. I’m not exactly sure of their current situation

So, they need to be better maintained.

If it has stopped drivers from going down it, then it works.

If it works for there, they could be installed on the LRT lines, including this one and should make the line that much faster.
The LRT already runs in a reserve lane, so if it got signal priority and the LRT tracks were treated like regular railway tracks, the line could be sped up day one.