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TTC: Flexity Streetcars Testing & Delivery (Bombardier)

So in guess the ION extension to Cambridge would be the only tender for more flexity's.
Unless the TTC decides it needs more streetcars
ION will get the same car for the extension that they have today.

TTC doesn't need extra cars until the Eglinton East Line gets built when every that maybe. Since the line will not connect to any TTC lines, they will most likely be standard gauge that may connect to Metrolinx lines.

TTC has enough LRVs for the QQE line when every it gets built. They will still have enough LRVs when every the Broadview extension happen as well connect to the new Commissioner extension between 2040-50, but most likely be the new replacement vehicles for the current fleet.. It would be in TTC best interest to look at duel end vehicles with crossovers every X distances as well stub tracks to replace loops.
 
t would be in TTC best interest to look at duel end vehicles with crossovers every X distances as well stub tracks to replace loops.
What is the benefit, from the TTC's perspective, of having dual ended vehicles, when a) they already own the properties on which their loops sit, and b) the absolute vast majority of their infrastructure is street running, and having to do reverse movements would still mean they would have to tangle with conflicting traffic getting in the way?

Dual ended cars are ideal for new systems which are not beholden to legacy infrastructure, and which are in their own right of way, that can execute reverse movements without traffic. I fail to see what possible benefit the TTC could get from this when so much of their operations are based on more than 100 years of loop-based operations.

I think that, considering the TTC's long term handicapping of streetcar operations, and how many Torontonians, including, sadly, lots of people on this forum, view streetcars as the physical embodiment of all evil, we will be lucky if we don't get another Ford type jackass advocating to dismantle the streetcar network again when the current Flexity cars come up for replacement.
 
ION will get the same car for the extension that they have today.

TTC doesn't need extra cars until the Eglinton East Line gets built when every that maybe. Since the line will not connect to any TTC lines, they will most likely be standard gauge that may connect to Metrolinx lines.

TTC has enough LRVs for the QQE line when every it gets built. They will still have enough LRVs when every the Broadview extension happen as well connect to the new Commissioner extension between 2040-50, but most likely be the new replacement vehicles for the current fleet.. It would be in TTC best interest to look at duel end vehicles with crossovers every X distances as well stub tracks to replace loops.
If one were building a totally new streetcar network I assume one would use dual-end cars and thus avoid loops but that's NOT what we have here. Steve Munro has useful chart of streetcar needs based on greater frequency and lines expanding/opening. SEE: https://stevemunro.ca/2025/12/23/a-surfeit-of-streetcars/
 
ION will get the same car for the extension that they have today.

TTC doesn't need extra cars until the Eglinton East Line gets built when every that maybe. Since the line will not connect to any TTC lines, they will most likely be standard gauge that may connect to Metrolinx lines.

TTC has enough LRVs for the QQE line when every it gets built. They will still have enough LRVs when every the Broadview extension happen as well connect to the new Commissioner extension between 2040-50, but most likely be the new replacement vehicles for the current fleet.. It would be in TTC best interest to look at duel end vehicles with crossovers every X distances as well stub tracks to replace loops.
You sure ION will get the same cars as they have now. They don't make them anymore. Unless Alstom reactivates production for such a small order. Would it be worth it?

Has ION sent out a RFP or some document stating this?
 
What is the benefit, from the TTC's perspective, of having dual ended vehicles, when a) they already own the properties on which their loops sit, and b) the absolute vast majority of their infrastructure is street running, and having to do reverse movements would still mean they would have to tangle with conflicting traffic getting in the way?

Dual ended cars are ideal for new systems which are not beholden to legacy infrastructure, and which are in their own right of way, that can execute reverse movements without traffic. I fail to see what possible benefit the TTC could get from this when so much of their operations are based on more than 100 years of loop-based operations.

I think that, considering the TTC's long term handicapping of streetcar operations, and how many Torontonians, including, sadly, lots of people on this forum, view streetcars as the physical embodiment of all evil, we will be lucky if we don't get another Ford type jackass advocating to dismantle the streetcar network again when the current Flexity cars come up for replacement.
I think the benefits to having double end cars is a worthwhile investment. You save on not having loops. And everything doesn't have to happen at once. Double end cars, and as time goes on make the adjustments at the end of the line to accommodating them. By the time 30 years come around there would have been significant worthwhile investments.

Rob Ford was the most radical mayor we've had in being anti streetcar. And despite that, the streetcar order went through. I think while he was mayor. He certainly didn't cancel it. I might be naive , but I highly doubt a future mayor or councilor will be successful in getting rid of Streetcars. If Rob Ford couldn't do it, and now Doug Ford as premier with all the powers he has, he could easily get rid of them today.
Doug got rid of speed cameras over streetcars. And I'm sure speed cameras are way more sensitive than streetcars.
At least with streetcars, developers would rather keep them and have them as a selling point and value. And we all know how tight Doug Ford is with developers.

Again I might be naive , but Streetcars aren't going anywhere. Sure there will always be some emotional out cry, but that's with anything in the city.
 
TTC celebrates arrival of 60th new streetcar

Jan. 12, 2026

On Tues., Jan. 13, 2026, Minister of Environment, Climate Change and Nature Julie Dabrusin, Minister of Transportation for Ontario Prabmeet Sarkaria, TTC Chair Jamaal Myers, and TTC CEO Mandeep Lali will celebrate the TTC’s 60th new streetcar entering service.

Details are as follows:

• Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2026
• Time: 9:30 a.m.
• Location: Leslie Barns, 1165 Lake Shore Blvd. E, Toronto

In 2021, the Government of Canada, the Province of Ontario, and the City of Toronto jointly funded the purchase of 60 new streetcars, which have all now been received by the TTC. The addition of these vehicles brings the TTC’s streetcar fleet to 264 vehicles, an increase of 30 per cent.

The expansion marks a major step in modernizing Toronto’s transit system and delivering more reliable, accessible service across the city.
 
This is amusing unless I and others have miss something. 4663 is the 60th car that enter service on December 16/2025 (28 Days On route 512) after it arrived on November 18/2025 There been no delivery of any cars since November and this event should happen in December. Unless they have taken 4478 that was flood damage in 2018 that needed some rebuilding after been return June 17, 2025 from Thunder Bay and change its number to 4664, 4663 was 28 days old in service or 56 days since arrival for the event.

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Today, the TTC celebrated its 60th new streetcar entering service, completing the delivery of new streetcar vehicles purchased since 2021. The fleet expansion was jointly funded through the Government of Canada and the Province of Ontario, who committed up to $180 million each, with the City of Toronto providing the remaining $208 million.

With all 60 vehicles now in operation, the TTC has grown its streetcar fleet by nearly 30 per cent – a major step in modernizing Toronto’s transit system and delivering more reliable, accessible service across the city.

The 60 streetcars were produced by Alstom at its Thunder Bay facility. Delivery of these vehicles began in 2023, with the final streetcar arriving in late 2025.

“Dependable public transportation helps connect people to their jobs, schools, families, and communities,” said the Honourable Julie Dabrusin, Minister of the Environment, Climate Change and Nature, on behalf of the Honourable Gregor Robertson, Minister of Housing and Infrastructure and Minister responsible for Pacific Economic Development Canada. “The federal government is proud to support the expansion of Toronto’s streetcar fleet, helping create a more reliable system that reduces wait times and makes it easier for residents to move through their city every day.”

“Under the leadership of Premier Ford, our government is protecting Ontario by investing $70 billion in the largest transit expansion in North America to tackle gridlock, shorten travel times, and support good-paying jobs for Ontario’s manufacturers,” said Prabmeet Sarkaria, Ontario’s Minister of Transportation. “These made-in-Ontario streetcars are providing fast, reliable service to commuters in Toronto, connecting communities and transforming the way people move across the city.”

“These additional streetcars mean shorter waits, more reliable trips, and better connections across the city. Expanding and modernizing transit helps everyone get where they need to go. We are working to deliver a more affordable, safe, and caring city for Torontonians,” said Mayor Olivia Chow.

The expanded fleet will support six-minute or better service on streetcar routes, as recommended in TTC's 5-Year Service and Customer Experience Action Plan. Implementation of this service before 7 p.m. began on 505 Dundas, 511 Bathurst, and 512 St Clair this fall. In the future, this fleet will also support any proposed expansion of TTC’s streetcar network, including east along Queen’s Quay.

“Building up our streetcar fleet has been a key step to increasing service and reliability for our customers,” said TTC Chair Jamaal Myers. “The procurement of these 60 new streetcars is another great example of the transit improvements that are possible when all three levels of government come together to deliver for Torontonians.”

“We thank all our funding partners for their continued investment in the TTC,” said TTC CEO Mandeep S. Lali. “Without support for new vehicles, better facilities, and state-of-good-repair, we would not be able to deliver the kind of effective, reliable transit that Torontonians deserve and expect.”

In addition to the procurement of 60 streetcars, the Government of Canada’s $180 million contribution is also being used to support upgrades at Hillcrest Complex to accommodate storage and maintenance for the new streetcars. Construction at Hillcrest is currently underway after a ground-breaking ceremony held on March 6, 2025.

With 11 streetcar routes spanning 308 km, the TTC’s streetcar network is the largest and busiest in North America. In 2024, customers made over 34.5 million streetcar trips.

All TTC streetcars are fully accessible and zero emission, supporting Toronto’s climate and equity goals.
 
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4471 has finally return to Toronto to be unloaded in the next week. It left TTC property April 03/2019 after being out of service since Aug. 07/2018. It enter service April 18/2018 (16 Days after being off loaded April 02/2018) making it only 96 Days old when it went out of service. Been out of service 2,748 Days or 7 years, 3 months so far as of today and off site 2,479 Days or 6 years, 9 months so far.
 
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4471 has finally return to Toronto to be unloaded in the next week. It left TTC property April 03/2019 after being out of service since Aug. 07/2018. It enter service April 18/2018 (16 Days after being off loaded April 02/2018) making it only 96 Days old when it went out of service. Been out of service 2,748 Days so far as of today and off site 2,477 Days so far.
Hell hath frozen over ...

Well almost. I wonder how long before they see service. Has 4478 even run under it's own power, or do they just push it around Russell Yard every month or two. :)

4471's 96 days in service (is it? I count 111 days) of service is almost 40% longer than the 68 days (if I can count) that 4478 had.
 
Hell hath frozen over ...

Well almost. I wonder how long before they see service. Has 4478 even run under it's own power, or do they just push it around Russell Yard every month or two. :)

4471's 96 days in service (is it? I count 111 days) of service is almost 40% longer than the 68 days (if I can count) that 4478 had.
If you count from the day it was off loaded to when it was flooded, it would be 112 days 4471 was on TTC property. It was only in service after testing, burn-in and inspection that took 16 days and that was 96 days.

4478 still hasn't ran since it arrived in 2025 that has missing seats that I am aware of. It looks like it is sitting on track 19 in Russell yard at this time at the very front of the track.
 
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TTC 4471 was off loaded today after 2484 days since it left the property for repairs (April 3, 2019) and 2723 days since the flash flooding (August 7, 2018)..
 

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