Mississauga Hurontario-Main Line 10 LRT | ?m | ?s | Metrolinx

[drum118]

But I said the north section, not the south section. I get the south section is behind, but the area from MCC to the north seems much further ahead.

By the end of 2026, all tracks could be in place from Steeles to Port Credit, depending on how much trackwork has to be rebuilt. This doesn't require phasing. If the loop is to be part of the line for opening day, you may have to do a phasing for Sq One to Steeles, depending on what ML wants for opening day. Otherwise, no need for any phasing now with the Brampton guideway being built with Port Credit, either by year's end or early January, taking place.

If you have a real close look at the trackwork that is already done, you will find all kinds of rail removed or cut out, let alone not completed.

What I am seeing is a push to get new tracks installed, with make-work to deal with trackwork needing replacement as well the incomplete areas.

Intersections that needs work will happen first before the other trackwork. If you look a the two intersections having guideway built for them, trackwork for the intersection is being done first with the connecting trackwork being done later even though all the trackwork is in place for some of the connecting section.

There is tons of work to be done before testing can start. By the time testing may start, the test bay maybe extended both ends of the plan area for July 2025, There has been a major push since September starting with trackwork and now the guideway.

 

[Midtown Urbanist]

I was hoping to hear from @Midtown Urbanist why he felt they were so different.

The seats are very cramped, the photo I provided shows that there is very little leg room for two adults to sit across from another without having to share personal space, which is very unfortunate. That is not the worst situation either, as some of the seats tucked behind the exit doors or articulation joint areas do not even fit an adult properly, only child-sized humans.

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This is the Flexity Freedom vehicle to be used on Line 5, which is what we are familiar on our TTC streetcar network, just reskinned for Metrolinx colours.

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This is the Alstom Citadis on the Finch Line and set to come to Hurontario Line. Aesthetics aside, it just feels way more cramped in person compared to the Flexity Freedom vehicles.

I would not describe the situation as if the Alstom Citadis vehicles are a flop, they are similar to many vehicles I have seen in other jurisdictions. In my opinion however, the Bombardier Flexity Freedoms are significantly nicer to be seated in and feel way more spacious, which I have affirmed in my mind having ridden in a streetcar this evening and receiving a fresh comparison to yesterday's Alstom experience.

 

[nfitz]

I would not describe the situation as if the Alstom Citadis vehicles are a flop, they are similar to many vehicles I have seen in other jurisdictions. In my opinion however, the Bombardier Flexity Freedoms are significantly nicer to be seated in and feel way more spacious, which I have affirmed in my mind having ridden in a streetcar this evening and receiving a fresh comparison to yesterday's Alstom experience.

Interesting. I don't see how the width can be any different. It's not like the car width is any different than a Flexity Freedom (like in Waterloo). I suppose the aisle could be wider than the TTC's Flexity Outlooks, that are slightly narrower than the Freedoms and Citadis. But they don't look particularly narrow.

And really narrow seats? Did they put two seats in the spot on a Flexity where they put the really wide seat for ... uh ... people who like really wide seats (well often a parent and small child).

Is there less space between the pairs of seats (front and back, not side by side)? Oh well, it's probably better than the cattle cars they got in Montreal for the REM. And that I'm guessing we'll get on the Ontario Line.

How do you see the LRVs on Finch being a high class vehicle??

???? I wasn't. I ASKED Midtown Urbanist why they did. And they've answered.

Do you disagree with them? I'm not sure why when person A asks B a question about their thoughts, you jump in and explain different thoughts (and mention somewhere entirely different), and then you ask me to explain B's thoughts ... instead of just letting B reply?