|
|
|
Roads: Gardiner Expressway catch-all, incl. Hybrid Design (2015-onwards)
- Thread starter jozl
- Start date
infrastructureTO
New Member
Any activities over Metrolinx corridor requires flagging protection/working at night. It’ll be a pain to coordinate construction activities and any future maintenance/inspection work around rail traffic.
Not saying is impossible for the City/MTO and Metrolinx to work together and sign some project specific agreement/easement but it is a bunch of paperwork/coordination that apparently no one wants to do.
Not saying is impossible for the City/MTO and Metrolinx to work together and sign some project specific agreement/easement but it is a bunch of paperwork/coordination that apparently no one wants to do.
drum118
Superstar
First off, where is the room to put in the bent support on the side of the existing corridor to support the main bean to support this idea??
Second, no room to put in centre bents without removing tracks 100% and DOA by Metrolinx right off the bat,
Three is o have Beams sitting on side bents will have be assemble in one piece to be lifted by a number of cranes, but most of all, the underside if the beam has to be 35 feet above the track.
Four: Given the span, the weight of 6-8 lanes of traffic, the depth of the beam could be 15 feet or more and leave that to the engineers who may have a better idea.
Five: Given the length of the supporting beam, where do assembly these monster beams??
Six: You need to move the ramps to/from the DVP further north due to the increase of height as well make various changes to the Gardiner to get to the new height that will require the closing of the Gardiner up to a year.
Seven: Metrolinx will require strict protection over the corridor at all times that will not interfere with train movement or nighttime work.
As far as I am concern, time to remove the eastern section regardless if means an extra 5-10 minute trave time on the ground and save everyone money not have to pay taxes to cover the yearly cost to maintain it as well built the plan new one. Only 25-35,000 vehicles use that section in the first place.
Rainforest
Senior Member
A solution that frees up some local space, but complicates any future upgrades to the rail corridor .. may not be environmentally friendly, if we look at the big picture.
Given the importance of this rail corridor for public transit.
Given the importance of this rail corridor for public transit.
TorontoPotential
Active Member
Ha! Saying that will only add 5-10 mins is akin to how the city said their study for taking down the Logan ramp would only add 6 minutes and yet the REALITY is that it’s added 60 minutes of commute time for us folks who live in the east end and are now forced to drive thru the city to catch the in ramp at Jarvis. No thanks.
Jonny5
Senior Member
That's quite a reality you live in.
innsertnamehere
Superstar
The logan ramp removal may not have added 60 minutes but certainly far more than 5 minutes for drivers, especially during rush hour. The Jarvis on-ramp was already at capacity before the logan ramp removal which means backups for it are huge.
The lakeshore Don River bridge construction doesn't help either. It will get a bit better after that is done next year.. but the Cherry ramps are probably still almost 10 years from being built, realistically, so east enders are going to have to get used to it.
I do feel for them as the east end of the city was already one of, if not the hardest area to access in the City by car. There are not a lot of roads in or out of that area. The issues with the demolition were inevitable, the problem is that the City demolished the ramps with no real plans to replace them for at least a decade. It's a long time to wait for that part of the City.
nfitz
Superstar
If I've been dumb enough to drive Lakeshore, I've certainly seen it add 45-minutes on some days. The estimates on Google maps are way too short, as it gets confused about the Lakeshore traffic in the left-lane going past the mess, and the traffic in the right, not moving. And the traffic moving at speed overhead.
But in reality it doesn't add that much time for people in the east end - as we now know not to go on Lakeshore, and instead get on at Pottery Road/Bloor or Don Mills Road,
Once construction is finished in 2030 or so, the old Lakeshore route probably won't even add 5 minutes.
mburrrrr
Senior Member
A new section of Lakeshore east of the DVP was open last night. 2 lanes on the north and south side while they rework the middle section now. The new WB bridge was not open.
TripleQ
New Member
No pictures today but the decking is almost done. Just one more section to install at the eastern end.
kotsy
Senior Member
Final girders are going in tonight.
www.blogto.com
Timeline for Toronto's Gardiner Expressway construction now cut in half
If you regularly take the Gardiner Expressway to and from work in Toronto (and are all too familiar with its congestion), you'll be relieved to hear …
www.blogto.com
zang
Senior Member
Oh goody. Expect drivers to complain there's even more traffic downtown.Timeline for Toronto's Gardiner Expressway construction now cut in half
If you regularly take the Gardiner Expressway to and from work in Toronto (and are all too familiar with its congestion), you'll be relieved to hear …
RapidTransit
Active Member
Province still needs to officially upload both expressways. I thought back in February they were close to doing so.
Hopefully in time for next City budget cycle.
Hopefully in time for next City budget cycle.
thaivic
Senior Member
cdosrun
New Member
This week driving by, looks like more than 2/3 of the concrete guardrails are poured and they were in the process of framing the last bit for the pour. The conrete for the road has all been poured.