Toronto Union Station Revitalization | ?m | ?s | City of Toronto | NORR

[JJTheJetPln]

Wait, I'm confused. Why do they still have the jersey barriers there when it looks like there are bollards right beside them.

Two for the price of one, or the city is just lazy to remove them.

 

[DSCToronto]

Wait, I'm confused. Why do they still have the jersey barriers there when it looks like there are bollards right beside them.

The City is clearly a Belt AND Braces guy!

 

[nightstreak]

I’ve been combing some project documents and going frame by frame through a video Metrolinx published last year showing a 3d model of Union

I noticed both of these sources indicate or show that most platforms will be extended 1-200 metres out of the shed.
Not simple asphalt platforms either, it seems like the outer platforms will closely resemble the south platforms currently under construction, including canopies and connections to the proposed pedestrian bridges.

I’ve put this together to show how large the footprint of the station might be from above in the future:

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The city really cheaped out Union Station's shed. Looks like a bikini that barely covers the bits and you're telling me its going to get worse?

This shed could've been such a landmark and instead they built a generic glass box that covers a tiny bit of the platforms. What's the point? I'm longing for the day of a visionary mayor that cares about public space.

 

[crs1026]

I’ve been combing some project documents and going frame by frame through a video Metrolinx published last year showing a 3d model of Union

I noticed both of these sources indicate or show that most platforms will be extended 1-200 metres out of the shed.
Not simple asphalt platforms either, it seems like the outer platforms will closely resemble the south platforms currently under construction, including canopies and connections to the proposed pedestrian bridges.

I’ve put this together to show how large the footprint of the station might be from above in the future:

Love this.

The thing I wondered (give me an inch, I will ask for more lol ....) is what pedestrian connections there will be to the streets at the outer extremes of the extended platforms. Seems like there is an opportunity to flow passengers away from the center depot altogether.... although, with the platforms not all reaching to the same end points, it might be confusing or disfunctional if some platforms could be accessed from the ends, but others could not. Still, the more options people have to avoid the main concourse, the better.
I'm especially thinking of the flow to and from Skydome during events, but also the Hummingbird Center and other attractions.

- Paul

 

[AlvinofDiaspar]

The city really cheaped out Union Station's shed. Looks like a bikini that barely covers the bits and you're telling me its going to get worse?
View attachment 637388

This shed could've been such a landmark and instead they built a generic glass box that covers a tiny bit of the platforms. What's the point? I'm longing for the day of a visionary mayor that cares about public space.

This was a GO - by extension provincial - decision (coupled with the misguided Federal heritage restrictions on the shed). A mayor won't be able to do anything about it.

AoD

 

[jje1000]

I think there's surely some opportunity to open up more of the shed to light, as I think there's intrinsically something interesting about a repetitive forest of columns.

Keeping the shed as-is at the moment is probably more of a budgetary decision, much like the elimination of the elaborate roof at East Harbour Station.

For example at the Central Railroad of New Jersey Terminal compared to Union's much more covered design.

 

[crs1026]

The original reason for retaining the roof in its current form was to install a green roof on top.

IMHO There was a bit of a piling-on of agendas when the renovations were first planned, which led to some unfortunate decisions.

The heritage attributes of the trainshed can easily be preserved if the green roof is abandoned, and translucent panels substituted for the decking. That would greatly improve the natural light under the trainshed. Probably not costly as a retrofit either.

I'm not sure that having a green roof is all that mission critical, no offense to those who advocate for green roofs, they are great things to have, but may not be practical or desirable everywhere.

- Paul

 

[bearcat]

The original reason for retaining the roof in its current form was to install a green roof on top.

IMHO There was a bit of a piling-on of agendas when the renovations were first planned, which led to some unfortunate decisions.

The heritage attributes of the trainshed can easily be preserved if the green roof is abandoned, and translucent panels substituted for the decking. That would greatly improve the natural light under the trainshed. Probably not costly as a retrofit either.

I'm not sure that having a green roof is all that mission critical, no offense to those who advocate for green roofs, they are great things to have, but may not be practical or desirable everywhere.

- Paul

Is there any chance the green roof is ever happening at all?

 

[DSCToronto]

Is there any chance the green roof is ever happening at all?

I would say Zero!

 

[nightstreak]

I would say Zero!

I think there's a better chance of the air rights being sold off in the coming decades like New York's Grand Central.

Air Rights | American Experience | PBS

Grand Central Terminal's builders pioneered the concept of air rights.

www.pbs.org

 

[generalcanada]

I think there's a better chance of the air rights being sold off in the coming decades like New York's Grand Central.

Air Rights | American Experience | PBS

Grand Central Terminal's builders pioneered the concept of air rights.

www.pbs.org

*cough* rail deck park *cough*

 

[christiesplits]

The original reason for retaining the roof in its current form was to install a green roof on top.

IMHO There was a bit of a piling-on of agendas when the renovations were first planned, which led to some unfortunate decisions.

The heritage attributes of the trainshed can easily be preserved if the green roof is abandoned, and translucent panels substituted for the decking. That would greatly improve the natural light under the trainshed. Probably not costly as a retrofit either.

I'm not sure that having a green roof is all that mission critical, no offense to those who advocate for green roofs, they are great things to have, but may not be practical or desirable everywhere.

- Paul

Knowing Toronto, even without the competing agendas, they would have found a way to cheapen out and give us the bikini shed.

I’ve been mostly positive towards the Union Station renos, but the decision to only partially build the glass roof was a big mistake.