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I'm surprised the city hasnt brought up the "funicular walkway" option up for a study. I mean if they were stupid enough to study replacing the Bay street streetcar tunnel with the walkway, why dont they waste some more time and money doing it here right?

In all seriousness though, the option that makes most sense (if we're not talking about converting the Island Airport) to getting people over to the island is more ferries. There's simply no other cost effective method to create more green space for downtown residents. The city cant even afford to deliver 2 relatively straightforward parks (Rees St and Harbour St), so in what world could they afford to do anything that's even more complicated?
 
Amare said:
The city cant even afford to deliver 2 relatively straightforward parks (Rees St and Harbour St), so in what world could they afford to do anything that's even more complicated?
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Rees Street is funded.

Not sure what you're aiming at in respect of Harbour Street.
 
Northern Light said:
Rees Street is funded.

Not sure what you're aiming at in respect of Harbour Street.
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Well that's news to me, are you aware of what the has been delay in getting the construction started is if it's not a cost issue?

Regarding Harbour St, this is the parcel i'm referring to:

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Amare said:
Well that's news to me, are you aware of what the has been delay in getting the construction started is if it's not a cost issue?
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The Waterfront DRP didn't like the design direction at all, (they were right), it led to the Landscape Architect contract being terminated.

A new RFP for Park design should be going out shortly.


Amare said:
Regarding Harbour St, this is the parcel i'm referring to:

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This one is being built by the developer. The timing is normally triggered by different building permits, I can't recall if that's the case here, but seeing as they seem to be readying to move the school ahead, I think you'll find the park is likely going to be tied timing wise to the school opening.

*note that this section of street is no longer to be named Harbour, but instead Downes Street.
 
Northern Light said:
The Waterfront DRP didn't like the design direction at all, (they were right), it led to the Landscape Architect contract being terminated.

A new RFP for Park design should be going out shortly.
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Well that's definitely reassuring and good to know, hopefully the cost doesnt escalate and lead to the city needing to find additional funds to deliver it.

Northern Light said:
This one is being built by the developer. The timing is normally triggered by different building permits, I can't recall if that's the case here, but seeing as they seem to be readying to move the school ahead, I think you'll find the park is likely going to be tied timing wise to the school opening.

*note that this section of street is no longer to be named Harbour, but instead Downes Street.
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News to me again, I was under the thinking that the park would be delivered by the city and not the developer. But since that's the case, makes sense why the timeline is delayed with this one.

@Northern Light is bringing the heat the details, always appreciated.
 
Amare said:
Well that's definitely reassuring and good to know, hopefully the cost doesnt escalate and lead to the city needing to find additional funds to deliver it.


News to me again, I was under the thinking that the park would be delivered by the city and not the developer. But since that's the case, makes sense why the timeline is delayed with this one.

@Northern Light is bringing the heat the details, always appreciated.
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Not to side track this thread too much, but here's a link w/the current'ish status of Rees:

Rees Street Park | Waterfront Toronto

www.waterfrontoronto.ca www.waterfrontoronto.ca

RFP was due to be out by now, I thought.
 
lenaitch said:
So . . . the city wants tourist, just not in its peaceful places?
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Wanting tourists is one thing. Wanting tourists everywhere in equal numbers is quite another.

It’s the last thing tourists themselves want in a city. Some come for hustle and bustle, big attractions and shopping. Some come for more intimate experiences. They don’t need to be led by the hand. In fact that's a good way to ruin it. Let them enjoy the journey as well as the destination. Yes, the Bay Street docks are stupidly inefficient and uncomfortable. Everything else about the ferries is good. Have you ever seen unhappy kids on board?

As for the airport: I don’t fly any more. But the stories I hear regularly about Pearson suggest it would be close to urbanist malpractice to rip out a centrally located aviation alternative that’s as accessible or more to half the city. How big YTZ should be and for what kind of flights it should be used are fair questions. Closing it on the ground that downtown needs a big park, when the city repeatedly flubbed opportunities to make such a space in actual downtown, smacks of the worst kind of central planning.

As for the islanders, I care about the ones I know, who are far, far removed from the smug elite leaseholder caricature that endures among self-styled levellers. And isn’t it true that having people live on land is the best way of avoiding historic mistakes in determining its use?
 
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