drum118
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As I know, transit gets signals first or remain on tell transit cross the intersection when approaching it. More to be flush out in the next year or so.
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Dundas St Rapid Transit (Metrolinx, Mississauga, Halton Region, CoT)
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Lake Ontario
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Metrolinx Engage: https://www.metrolinxengage.com/en/engagement-initiatives/dundasbrt
Presentation: https://www.metrolinxengage.com/sit...ic_information_centre_-_full_presentation.pdf
Metrolinx is seeking feedback on pinch points at Cooksville, Erindale/Credit River, and The East Mall to Kipling Station/Auckland Road.
Presentation: https://www.metrolinxengage.com/sit...ic_information_centre_-_full_presentation.pdf
Metrolinx is seeking feedback on pinch points at Cooksville, Erindale/Credit River, and The East Mall to Kipling Station/Auckland Road.
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SubHuman
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I think the busway in Mississauga has shown people do not necessarily have to live or work right beside a station to find them useful. Most people using them will probably connect to another local route at one or both ends for their complete journey, much like with the subways in Toronto. It gets more people where they're going faster than using purely local bus routes.
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nfitz
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I'm sure some find them useful, but do enough find them useful?
I haven't seen any ridership numbers yet. Are they available? How do they compared to predicted?
AlvinofDiaspar
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Yes and no - Mississauga doesn't have as well-rounded feeder system as Toronto and most of the local routes doesn't run as frequently - which weakens the proposition of using the busway routes this way. Routes that connect destinations while using the busway to shorten the trip tend to be stronger in ridership.
AoD
SubHuman
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It just seemed that from my admittedly somewhat limited experiences that it was gradually getting used more all the time, particularly when it was getting closer to rush hour.
Here's something with a guy mentioning a number for 2018, though I suppose he probably wouldn't be proudly announcing it was a failure it that was the case, and I would assume some neutral analysis might provide a more realistic assessment.
Mississauga's transit service MiWay sets ridership record in 2018
East-west transitway helped increase ridership last year.
www.toronto.com
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afransen
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That's a pretty health growth rate (prepandemic), over 10% annually.
drum118
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Given how the system been cut up and routes removed, Riders have no choice but to use the Transitway to get to/from faster with few transfer than before.
If you take a close look at ridership, the ridership for Stations on the Transitway are less than the growth of the routes that travel it. 107 replace the 7 & 18, 109 east of Renforth is less than than to the west and is more west of Sq One. 110 is a failure before it hit the road south of UTM and still is.
2040 calls for 25,000 hourly at peak times for ridership west of Renforth and why I said it needs to be LRT, not BRT. This is for Mississauga and GO Transit Systems with GO having higher numbers.
afransen
Senior Member
25k peak hour should be light metro. And ideally it gets built somewhere more useful than the traffic sewer 403 ROW.
drum118
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afransen
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I think this link works, drum:
Rather unambitious to limit residential development to 6 stories along the Dundas BRT. Or is this the usual game of allow 6 and have developers bargain for more?
Rather unambitious to limit residential development to 6 stories along the Dundas BRT. Or is this the usual game of allow 6 and have developers bargain for more?
allengeorge
Senior Member
It’ll be more than Toronto allows along the Bloor-Danforth line, sadly.
sixrings
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Personally I don’t have a huge problem with it since Mississauga is trying to push people towards hurontario where the lrt is and the city centre where people can walk more. There are only so many new buildings which can be built in a year. Now if this brt was expensive that would be a totally different story.
afransen
Senior Member
Mississauga needs to intensify across the board. I don't think the solution is to push MCC up to 100k per sqkm and leave the rest of the city a suburban wasteland.
As soon as you're going past lowrise, I don't see why you would limit to less than 12 stories. Dundas is very wide ROW, it can handle the height.
allengeorge
Senior Member
I agree. Dundas should allow higher, and there should be a transition zone behind that allows 6-storey, followed by the area behind allowing missing-middle use and low-effort lot-splitting.
One can dream.