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Richard White said:
This sort of setup would be nice as part of a provinical emergency ops centre. Something where they can control all GTA transit from a single room.
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Ontario already has a provincial emergency operations centre, but it is for the strategic (read - high level) monitoring of potential emergency situations and coordinating response at the provincial/political level for emerging/existing declared emergencies. It is not for the functional or operational response to emergent situations of individual ministries/agencies. The particular needs and command/control/recovery structures are too diverse. Every municipality/ministry/agency is required to have their own emergency response plan consistent with their jurisdiction/mandate.
 
lenaitch said:
Ontario already has a provincial emergency operations centre, but it is for the strategic (read - high level) monitoring of potential emergency situations and coordinating response at the provincial/political level for emerging/existing declared emergencies. It is not for the functional or operational response to emergent situations of individual ministries/agencies. The particular needs and command/control/recovery structures are too diverse. Every municipality/ministry/agency is required to have their own emergency response plan consistent with their jurisdiction/mandate.
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What I meant was it would be nice to have a main transit control centre for the GTA in an emergency operations centre to control transit regionally in the event of a G20 situation.

During the G20 transit was suspended in Toronto . VIA, GO, TTC.. nothing was getting near downtown and in some cases like VIA rail and GO transit nothing was even getting into Toronto. It would have been nice to have had a main control center to coordinate that whole mess. Imagine the repercussions if terrorists take out Union Station, you will need to be able to co-ordinate things regionally not just locally.
 
Richard White said:
What I meant was it would be nice to have a main transit control centre for the GTA in an emergency operations centre to control transit regionally in the event of a G20 situation.

During the G20 transit was suspended in Toronto . VIA, GO, TTC.. nothing was getting near downtown and in some cases like VIA rail and GO transit nothing was even getting into Toronto. It would have been nice to have had a main control center to coordinate that whole mess. Imagine the repercussions if terrorists take out Union Station, you will need to be able to co-ordinate things regionally not just locally.
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Point taken. I think the main problem with the disruption during the G20 was that the Union Station-Royal York-MTCC was within the secure zone. When you have a hub-based transit system and loose the hub . . .

The solution is not hold these things in major urban centres. There were minimal problems with Huntsville, Kananaskis or, more recently, Charlevois Quebec. These things take months and months of planning and preparation. Everything was planned for the G7 in Hunstville until the PM decided to turn it into a G20 a few months in advance. There simply wasn't the resources or infrastructure nor time to assemble them in Huntsville so the '20' part had to move to Toronto.
 
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lenaitch said:
Point taken. I think the main problem with the disruption during the G20 was that the Union Station-Royal York-MTCC was within the secure zone. When you have a hub-based transit system and loose the hub . . .

The solution is not hold these things in major urban centres. There were minimal problems with Huntsville, Kananaskis or, more recently, Charlevois Quebec. These things take months and months of planning and preparation. Everything was planned for the G7 in Hunstville until the PM decided to turn it into a G20 a few months in advance. There simply wasn't the resources or infrastructure nor time to assemble them in Huntsville so the '20' part had to move to Toronto.
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I had to work the Saturday and Sunday of that G20 mess, though only until 12:30PM both days. The office I worked at was on Bay Street, near Wellesley.

Union Station was just outside the secure zone, though GO abandoned train service in the early afternoon on Saturday and bus service later in the afternoon, and the TTC shut down service south of Bloor around 1PM. I was able to get a bus to Brampton at the GO Union bus terminal around 2PM on Saturday, though I had to walk to Union via Bay Street.
 
Work at Main street station is progressing they have the new overhead wire strung up but not attached to the hangers.

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From todays Montreal Gazette: https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...-getting-anti-suicide-barriers-at-13-stations

After years of saying it was against the idea of so-called “anti-suicide” barriers in métro stations, the Société de transport de Montréal is now planning on installing them in at least 13 stations.

The STM hopes the barriers can help reduce the number of shutdowns and prevent delays and congestion on the métro network.

The 13 stations, located on the Orange line, would be equipped with glass doors that open automatically when a métro car stops at the station, isolating the tracks from the platforms and preventing users from getting on the tracks.

The barriers are often described as “anti-suicide” because they prevent people from accessing the tracks. The barriers are becoming more and more widespread on underground transportation networks all over the world.

All stations of the city’s future REM commuter light-rail network, currently under construction, will be equipped with them.
 
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After years of saying it was against the idea of so-called “anti-suicide” barriers in métro stations, the Société de transport de Montréal is now planning on installing them in at least 13 stations.

The STM hopes the barriers can help reduce the number of shutdowns and prevent delays and congestion on the métro network.
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Montreal has three advantages over Toronto in terms of making these barriers much easier and cheaper to install.

First of all, the platforms aren't cantilevered far over the tracks (where there's a crawl area on the TTC to escape from the train, if you are on the tracks). This makes construction a lot cheaper.

Secondly, Montreal already has had ATC for over 40 years. The trains have been stopping in exactly the same place in the station for so long that you can see where the floor is warn a bit, near the doors!

And the trains already take the full length of the platform in Montreal (9-car trains), so no issues of how the door spacings would change by adding an extra car to use the full platform length.

Should be a lot cheaper there than in Toronto.
 
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