We've just put up a front page story with the latest plans for the Scarborough Centre station, per what was shown to Toronto's Design Review Panel in July.
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sixrings
Senior Member
So URBAN!!! My childhood home.... how do I miss you!!!
JSF-1
Active Member
I was really hoping that they would take design queues from the Scarborough Civic Centre since to me at least the SCC is the real gem in that area as far as design goes. It looks like they are just going to recreate VMC station. The design has a me a little bummed but whatever. Also does it look like they've at least try to fix that disaster of a station layout? It looks like the Subway is much closer to the Bus Terminal this time.
syn
Senior Member
The station is massive - 400m in length is about the same distance between entire stations downtown lol.
I wonder what the distance is from the furthest entrance to the subway.
If Ford really does want a three station extension, is this all going down the drain anyways?
Northern Light
Superstar
From the front page story.
This image bothers me.
There is another report forthcoming examining the idea of
putting the progress intersection w/McCowan back to grade.
There is already a report suggesting that the slip lanes/highway interchange style connections from Bushby and from Progress to McCowan.
Yet this design seems to make the assumption nothing will change.
Is this another right-hand, left-hand thing?
Tuck
Active Member
Was there really no better option than a 400m walk between the station and the mall..? Thats not a negligible distance. Thats close to the distance between stations downtown!
The station itself looks nice. Not too nice like the Vaughan ones, but close. In general I'm very much in favor of simple stations.
Wonder when we find out for sure if the gov is going back to the three station plan (or 4, even)
The station itself looks nice. Not too nice like the Vaughan ones, but close. In general I'm very much in favor of simple stations.
Wonder when we find out for sure if the gov is going back to the three station plan (or 4, even)
WislaHD
Superstar
Between that and all the walking to get from the bus bay to the station, I truly do pity anyone who has to use this subway.
Steve X
Senior Member
Clearly people don't realize it will take 5-10 minutes to get from instead STC to the subway platform depending on walking pace. This is a lot more than the 1-2 minutes with the SRT. TTC has said this station is going to be ta very deep station. It will take some times to get from the surface to catch that train. All the time they are going to save from the transfer at Kennedy is wasted at the new STC station. On the bright side, the station will look much better than the current simple layout.
Streety McCarface
Senior Member
I blame Harris for putting us in the mess we have now, and I believe the vast majority of people here do as well. Harris was an awful Premier, from Privatizing the 407 to ending provincial subsidies to the TTC, he, in my eyes, did the most harm to Ontario in recent history.
As far as we know, the crosstown is nothing more than a St. Clair style LRT with better stop spacing east of Don Mills. There's nothing disputing that, and with the current set up, if the corridor does not include signal priority (not that BS downtown), barriers (like on LA's or Calgary's LRT lines), and fencing, it's going to be susceptible to idiots that don't know how to keep to their lane, drivers who believe they own the road and make left turns first, and morons who get flats as a result. We see it in all other cities with this type of LRT line -- accidents are going to happen and they are going to delay a lot of people.
McCowan has arguably the worst transfer or one of the worst transfers to rapid transit on the Bloor-Danforth SRT corridor. When you factor in the time it takes to get to Kennedy, 33 minutes increases to 48 to 53 minutes.
sixrings
Senior Member
hey I dont mind st clairs lines and it sure looks like a lot of others agree. Add better stop spacing and its going to be significantly improved and faster. Also those above ground stops wont have 400m walks to get to them. Enjoy your crappier version of VMC at STC. It wont be the improvement you think its going to be and to make matters worse it'll cost more than you think. By the way I am an Eglinton resident awaiting my LRT with glee.
11th
Senior Member
sixrings
Senior Member
Doesnt change the fact that it was an additional subway leading people to yonge and sheppard which I am sure without google has seen office space stagnant if not decline over the last 2 decades. A ton of new condos and very little if any office space.
11th
Senior Member
There are of course multiple factors into why and how that happened - the early 90s slump, amalgamation, and other politics issues.
sixrings
Senior Member
what is the excuse for the last decade which has seen an office boom basically exclusively downtown? I dont know the names of all the buildings at the top of my head but there are three across from Trump, a new RBC, a new Telus.... all downtown
Streety McCarface
Senior Member
I don't mind St. Clair either, I love the streetcar system. However, the model they're using for Eglinton should not be something to model Rapid Transit on, especially in a busy area there. Like I said, simple fixes like removing some stops, adding gates, and fences would make a huge difference in what is perceived to be grade separation. Yes, it might be somewhat divisive, but again, this is Eglinton Avenue, not St. Clair. St Clair should be the model for the majority of streetcar lines, not for LRT lines in this city.
Again, I support a Scarborough subway, but I also want it to be built right. There are far too many people in Scarborough to be served by one LRT in the long term.