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Toronto Eglinton Line 5 | ?m | ?s | Metrolinx | Arcadis

howl said:
If I recall the people of Weston complained bitterly about the reconstruction of the GO/UPX line in their neighbourhood with no direct benefit for them - so GO agreed to give them a UPX station in addition to their GO station. I suspect in a year or so when it turns out no one ever uses the UPX station at Weston it will be closed and moved to Eglinton. They just can't say that yet.
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They should've built it at Eg-Weston to begin with. Wouldn't that satisfy that neighbourhood? Now it's a waste of money if they close it 5 years later since they're building a station at Lawrence-Weston instead.

If they don't build a UPX station at Eg-Weston once the Eg LRT opens it would be a glaringly obvious missing link at a mobility hub that makes both transit lines more useful. Eglinton would be more useful since it can get people to the airport, and UPX is more useful since it can be used by people who live along Eglinton.
 
ehlow said:
They should've built it at Eg-Weston to begin with. Wouldn't that satisfy that neighbourhood? Now it's a waste of money if they close it 5 years later since they're building a station at Lawrence-Weston instead.
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There's been a station at Weston though for over a hundred years. Presumably much of the money spent, would have to spent anyway to adjust the existing station and platforms to the new track configuration. Apart from the raised platform, it's all still usable.

The one way Weston might get some use, is after the Georgetown line goes to all-day service, that it would be the transfer point from those travelling from Brampton to Pearson.
 
howl said:
If I recall the people of Weston complained bitterly about the reconstruction of the GO/UPX line in their neighbourhood with no direct benefit for them - so GO agreed to give them a UPX station in addition to their GO station. I suspect in a year or so when it turns out no one ever uses the UPX station at Weston it will be closed and moved to Eglinton. They just can't say that yet.
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ehlow said:
They should've built it at Eg-Weston to begin with. Wouldn't that satisfy that neighbourhood? Now it's a waste of money if they close it 5 years later since they're building a station at Lawrence-Weston instead.

If they don't build a UPX station at Eg-Weston once the Eg LRT opens it would be a glaringly obvious missing link at a mobility hub that makes both transit lines more useful. Eglinton would be more useful since it can get people to the airport, and UPX is more useful since it can be used by people who live along Eglinton.
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nfitz said:
There's been a station at Weston though for over a hundred years. Presumably much of the money spent, would have to spent anyway to adjust the existing station and platforms to the new track configuration. Apart from the raised platform, it's all still usable.

The one way Weston might get some use, is after the Georgetown line goes to all-day service, that it would be the transfer point from those travelling from Brampton to Pearson.
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As I suspected. Now if that had built Eglinton to the Airport none of this would matter. So now the Crosstown will dump everyone at weston/eglinton in 2021, and force people to take the bus. No rail connection.
 
denfromoakvillemilton said:
As I suspected. Now if that had built Eglinton to the Airport none of this would matter. So now the Crosstown will dump everyone at weston/eglinton in 2021, and force people to take the bus. No rail connection.
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You'd still need a GO station at Mount Dennis. I suspect that most of the people changing to train at Mount Dennis aren't heading to Pearson, but to a GO station somewhere.

Remember that the Eglinton Crosstown EA said the peak hour demand between Renforth and Pearson was only 500 people. You don't have to look at the projected demand for long to see why they terminated the line at Mount Dennis.
 
denfromoakvillemilton said:
As I suspected. Now if that had built Eglinton to the Airport none of this would matter. So now the Crosstown will dump everyone at weston/eglinton in 2021, and force people to take the bus. No rail connection.
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There will already be a GO station and mobility hub at Mt Dennis station on the Eglinton Crosstown, with a connection between the Eg LRT and the GO tracks. The UPX will be open next year and run right through the mobility hub. If you simply add a stop at Eglinton, then people can transfer from the Eglinton Crosstown to the UPX to get to the airport without building any more transit lines/extensions.
 
ehlow said:
There will already be a GO station and mobility hub at Mt Dennis station on the Eglinton Crosstown, with a connection between the Eg LRT and the GO tracks. The UPX will be open next year and run right through the mobility hub. If you simply add a stop at Eglinton, then people can transfer from the Eglinton Crosstown to the UPX to get to the airport without building any more transit lines/extensions.
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That's going to cost money Metrolinx does not have. Right now, we have a stub at Mt Dennis and a stop 1 km NW because of political muckraking.
 
A big problem is that Metrolinx has said that the UPX fares would not be zone-based. Meaning that it will be cost the same $25+ to take the UPX from Pearson to Weston as it would to Union.
 
All they have to do is add the UPX stop there while building the Mt Dennis GO station, which shouldn't be too expensive or difficult.

A connection between the GO tracks and the Eglinton Crosstown is already planned as part of the Mt Dennis mobility hub.

They seem to be discussing & considering it, but it's probably too early now since the Eglinton line won't open for 6 years.

In an email, agency spokeswoman Vanessa Thomas said the design and scope has been set. She said the approved environmental assessment covered stations only at Weston and Bloor, and upgrades to GO Transit’s Georgetown line are already underway.

However, “connecting to the Eglinton Crosstown LRT line is an important future consideration for the Air Rail Link”, Ms. Thomas wrote, noting that it sees the area as a “mobility hub.”

The Crosstown will not open until 2020, well after the airport link is in service.
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http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/0...ink-connecting-union-station-to-the-airlport/
 
mjl08 said:
A big problem is that Metrolinx has said that the UPX fares would not be zone-based. Meaning that it will be cost the same $25+ to take the UPX from Pearson to Weston as it would to Union.
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I think they are probably still probably deciding on (arguing about) fares which is why they haven't announced it yet. Fares can also be changed, the Eglinton Crosstown doesn't even open until 5 years after the UPX opens.
 
mjl08 said:
A big problem is that Metrolinx has said that the UPX fares would not be zone-based. Meaning that it will be cost the same $25+ to take the UPX from Pearson to Weston as it would to Union.
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I'm not aware that Metrolinx has said the fares from Weston to Pearson would be the same as from Union to Pearson.

Do you have a reference for that?
 
denfromoakvillemilton said:
Mount Dennis is not UPX. I'm talking UPX.
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Metrolinx has said that the Mount Dennis station GO station will be designed to allow for UPX platforms.

denfromoakvillemilton said:
And why will Mount Dennis and Weston have go stations in 2020? Can you explain that one?
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Uh ... not sure what you mean here. There's been a GO Station at Weston since the 1970s, and it will remain. GO has said that they will add a GO station at Mount Dennis as part of the construction of the Eglinton line.
 
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