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Toronto Eglinton Line 5 | ?m | ?s | Metrolinx | Arcadis

accura407 said:
Fine so keep them in rush hours and have it unmanned during off-peak periods...I don't think every single train from ~5am to ~1am needs a person on board. Automated should be put to full use. I think even if some times delays happen for stupid reasons, i think overall the benefits outweigh the negatives.

I do agree though that if they are put to use as POP checkers throughout the train ride, that would then be a good use of having someone on board...They would basically be doing two jobs...Fare Collector & Train Operator!

Toronto has to Severely change its employment model for transit because the current system is ass-backwards and a huge drain on revenues...more POP and automated fare gates is the way to go. Start by eliminating fare collectors from low volume stations like Bessarion in off-peak periods and putting in fare barriers. Presto will surely help with this process more...using a phased approach, soon the entire TTC can have unmanned stations across the network.

Let the TTC focus its employer resources on real needs like driving buses or maintenance instead of having overpriced fare watchers...
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They could keep the trains clean of loose newspapers, candy bar wrappers, vagrants, drunks, mischief-makers, lost souls, accura407, etc..
 
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W. K. Lis said:
They could keep the trains clean of loose newspapers, candy bar wrappers, vagrants, drunks, mischief-makers, lost souls, accura407, etc..
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Yeah Real Mature... But then again What to expect from a child that cries horror every time gas prices rise by a penny! "OH NO ITS THE END OF THE WORLD"
 
W. K. Lis said:
To support putting the LRT underground east of Laird, the city will have to allow high density along the corridor. That means no more single-level, single-use use buildings. No buildings below 10 stories in height and the gradual disappearance of the parking lots around Eglinton East.
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I was thinking the same thing.
 
How the hell does it take 3 years to transfer the SkyTrain over to LRT?
Vancouver will be building it's entire NEW 11 km Evergreen SkyTrain route in 3 years and Calgary;s new 8km West LRT is being built in 3 years.
 
Will the line be built to allow for subway trains to be used in the future if demand warrants it? Which I'm sure it will at some point!
 
ssiguy2 said:
How the hell does it take 3 years to transfer the SkyTrain over to LRT?
Vancouver will be building it's entire NEW 11 km Evergreen SkyTrain route in 3 years and Calgary;s new 8km West LRT is being built in 3 years.
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The Evergreen line isn't even funded! That line isn't going to be built in 3 years.
 
As a matter a fact that province recently reaffirmed that the entire line will open by 2014.
Calgary's new grade separated West LRT is taking a total of 3 years to construct.
 
The minister said he was optimistic work can begin on the line. 2 days after that, the Mayor's council said there is no funding commitment, and they are adamant the funds are not coming from property taxes. Even if the project breaks ground this year, it is not going to take only 2.5 years to build an 11km line, no matter what you think.
 
Thoughtless Miscreant said:
Subway trains can't run on the old SRT alignment.
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Sure it can, once the SRT is rebuilt for the Eglinton LRT standards. If the Eglinton can be upgraded to a subway at a future date, so can the SRT, since they will be the same system.

Given the lack of Vision by Metrolinx, upgrading the LRT to subway after 2031 will cost twice as much if plans are not in place for it now. Given the fact that the 3 LRTs will take 100m of space of platform with fan rooms at both ends, where do you add the 4 subway car to the standard stations?

Come time to replace the LRTs with Subway, the T1's will be gone and you can move to an articulated train along the lines of the new ones. At the same time, you can move from 30m LRTs to 50m's and only have 2 cars doing the work of 3.

It was interesting to hear Metrolinx on June 30, that there will be buses running on the surface of Eglinton because of the spacing of the stops considering TTC was saying no.
 
Eventually it might be possible to slightly increase the capacity of Eglinton without rebuilding the stations or tracks - just by ordering another kind of rolling stock.

The LRV currently ordered will have 2 cabs in each car or 6 cabs per train; 4 out of 6 cabs will be never used except for carhouse movements. That means quite a bit of redundant floor space, although it should not be a problem when the line opens around 2022.

Once these LRV reach their retirement, or even sooner if they can be transferred to other lines (with lower demand and possibly on-street operation), TTC can order another kind of LRV. Those could be individual single-cab cars (once 3 of them are connected, 2 cabs face outwards), or even 3-car consists with only 2 cabs per train.

I doubt though that it will dramatically increase the capacity; perhaps by 5-10% only.
 
The 18km Millenium SkyTrain line was built in 22 months from word go. That 22 months included station design, community imput, enviornmental reviews, and all construction complete.
 
Thoughtless Miscreant said:
As I understand it, subway trains can't handle the curve between Midland and Ellesmere.
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You are correct, but come 2015, the SRT is to be rebuilt 100% to match Eglinton line. This will take place after the Pan AM games are over.

Upon completion around 2018, the existing ROW will be able to handle subway down the road unless Metrolinx drop the ball to do so.
 
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