Toronto Eglinton Line 5 Crosstown West Extension | ?m | ?s | Metrolinx

Mind_the_gap said:
If sh** hits the fan, would it be plausible purchasing the K-W units? How many extra sets are needed for full three-car trains to Renforth. K-W has 15 sets according to CPTDB Wiki. If the production line can't be re-activated, it might make sense to adapt their units, while possibly coordinating with Edmonton to get a good deal on replacements for K-W with Hyundai-Rotem.

Just wondering.
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Kitchener has 15 single cars - which equals 7 and a half trains for the Crosstown.

I'm not sure it moves the needle enough - and certainly would not look great if it is seen as Mighty Toronto ravaging the lesser cities for their rolling stock because it failed to sort it shit out in time - regardless of what might come for KW, equipment wise.

Of course, that bears the question - why not order Rotem cars for the Crosstown instead?

crs1026 said:
Call me crazy, but before adding more Flexity compatible vehicles to Line 5 I would explore the potential for an order of a three-unit long, single walkable trainset, with the Flexities cascaded to some other line that is more amenable to single/double car loads for the remaining life of those trams. eg Cambridge iOn extension?

More expensive in the short term, but possibly better for the longer term.

- Paul
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The Crosstown Flexities are not able to be operated in single-car formations without some serious work first. While they have controls at both ends of the car, there is only one operator's cab.

Of course, it doesn't help that the Crosstown's fleet is about as big as the combined fleets of KW, Finch West, Hurontario and Hamilton. There would need to be a significant increase in LRT projects in Ontario in order to swallow up a fleet that big.

Dan
 
duty free said:
It's more likely that the next batch of projects announced by the Ford Government are:
  • Ontario Line North Extension (Eglinton to Steeles ~10.6 km)
  • Sheppard East Extension (Don Mills to McCowan / STC ~7.4 km)
  • Sheppard West Extension (Yonge to Sheppard West ~4.4 km)
  • Eglinton West LRT Airport Extension (Renforth to YYZ ~4.7 km)
27 km of new rapid transit in critically close ridings within Toronto like Don Valley North, Don Valley East, Scarborough Centre, Scarborough-Agincourt, Willowdale & York Centre. The Eglinton West LRT Airport Extension is just logical and inevitable as well. I don't see this government backing LRT's or LRT extensions, but we'll see. Anything is possible.
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Ford seems to like having a “west” project (Line 5 to Renforth), an “east” project (Line 2 deeper into Scarborough), a “north” project (Line 1 to Richmond Hill), and a “core” project (Line 3). If we follow that pattern, the next phase somewhat aligns—but with his eyes always on the 905 for voters, don’t be surprised if something more ambitious for Line 1 (e.g., Wonderland) or Line 2 (Sherway, Square One) gets thrown into the mix.
 
A.Malik.77 said:
On a serious note Major Mac is a good terminus for the line. It could go up to Teston if yard space is needed in the farmlands, but MM is a natural terminus and connects most of Maple and Woodbridge.
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I said over a decade ago that the line show go north to Teston or X north of Mac with a station next to the 400 along with a 10-30,000 car parking structure over the 400 with a ramp to/from it straight on/off the 400 to it.
 
SaugeenJunction said:
At the Line 5 presser the Province held this past Friday, the Premier and Transport Minister stated emphatically the west extension was actually running ahead of schedule. Let’s see if that holds, but generally that’s positive news.
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This is probably the ONLY Metrolinx project that is running ahead of schedule so I'm sure they would like to boast about it as much as possible.

To be fair this is also one of the easiest projects that Metrolinx is running too. Underground TBM, lots of space in the ROW for underground station construction, the construction area on Renforth affording a lot of room for all staging equipment, lots of space on the ROW for the elevated section and stations, etc, etc. If I were being honest, the 2030/2031 completion date that was first announced should have actually been 2027/2028 because how easy the construction of this extension actually is.

I'm hoping the actual opening date for the extension is end of 2028 to beginning of 2029. Gives ~3 years for the station construction, rail and signal installation, testing, and commissioning which should be plenty of time.
 
Obsidian said:
The whole reason why it doesn't currently go to the airport is because the airport isn't currently interested with in more rapid transit connection.
And have scraped plans for a transit hub.
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This is an area where an entity like Metrolinx SHOULD be helping. Yes the GTAA has pushed it's transit hub plan to the back burner, no they haven't scrapped the plans entirely. Yes there are a number of transit lines that are coming ever so close to the YYZ catchement area. Yes there are plans to turn the area around Pearson into intermodal transit hub, and yes that is GOOD planning. What Metrolinx's role here should be to bring all the involved parties together and basically say "Though you GTAA might not be prepared to build your Union Station West hub. All the other transit lines are, or getting close to being ready to build their extensions to your proposed hub. So lets get together to get this done"
 
Woodbridge_Heights said:
This is an area where an entity like Metrolinx SHOULD be helping. Yes the GTAA has pushed it's transit hub plan to the back burner, no they haven't scrapped the plans entirely. Yes there are a number of transit lines that are coming ever so close to the YYZ catchement area. Yes there are plans to turn the area around Pearson into intermodal transit hub, and yes that is GOOD planning. What Metrolinx's role here should be to bring all the involved parties together and basically say "Though you GTAA might not be prepared to build your Union Station West hub. All the other transit lines are, or getting close to being ready to build their extensions to your proposed hub. So lets get together to get this done"
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GTAA is probably stuck on trying to figure out how to squeeze a per rider charge out of transit agencies to compensate for lost parking revenues. Last time they tried it with the UP train they had to backtrack: https://globalnews.ca/news/1693094/transit-group-calls-for-lower-fares-on-union-pearson-express/

j/k They're probably waiting for Metrolinx or the feds to write them a big cheque.
 
The TTC, don't know about Metrolinx, is moving away from the "park-n-ride" at stations, especially terminal stations. They rather people use buses, cycle, or walk to the stations. Rather have high density where people can walk to a close-by station, than rent out real estate to store a SUV for 8 to 10 hours.
 
Capacity for airport access only needs to grow as capacity for flights increases.

The Pearson LIFT program for terminal expansion is not even in design yet. Until then there is no rush to improve airport access, as far as GTAA is concerned.
 
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