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Toronto Eglinton Line 5 | ?m | ?s | Metrolinx | Arcadis

AlvinofDiaspar said:
That's a very City of Toronto - we will request a plan/staff report (from the very people/organization who oversaw this debacle). In this town, it's meaningless - the true measure of progress is actual outcome, not what's on a piece of paper.

And in case this isn't cynical enough, wait till you see the amendments after the round of inevitable speechmaking by the councillors.

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Considering how they answers the questions from the board meeting yesterday, how can we even trust the people and organization who are going to be writing this staff report? They'll just cook the staff report and say everything is fine and dandy and there are no improvements necessary; all our streetcar operations policies are world class and produce safe movement. Case closed.

What needs to happen is a third party review of all the streetcar operations policies. This way the TTC can't hide their dirt (eg. remember the SRT derailment: TTC says everything is fine and dandy, nothing to see here folks.).
 
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yrt+viva=1system said:
In addition, how can we even trust the people and organization who are going to be writing this staff report? They'll just cook the staff report and say everything is fine and dandy and there are no improvements necessary; all our streetcar operations policies are world class and produce safe movement. Case closed.

What needs to happen is a third party review of all the streetcar operations policies. This way the TTC can't hide their dirt (eg. remember the SRT derailment: TTC says everything is fine and dandy, nothing to see here folks.).
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Yup we need an independent inquiry on streetcar/LRT operations.

AoD
 
afransen said:
It's clear that no one was emphasizing a customer centric mindset. Giant box ticking exercise...
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If I can be crude, the mindset seems to have gone from you are riding the TTC because it is superior in performance to you are riding the TTC because you have no option so suck it up.

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AlvinofDiaspar said:
If I can be crude, the mindset seems to have gone from you are riding the TTC because it is superior in performance to you are riding the TTC because you have no option so suck it up.

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The TTC adverts on the Allen are so mind-bogglingly tone-deaf.
 
toronto647 said:
Heard from the grape veins, no opening date will be announced this year, will be announced in the new year IF / ASSUMING TTC is satisfied... here goes another year waiting for an opening date lol
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At this point, does it really matter if they announce it within the next 19 days? After the debacle of Line 6, they should have at the very least a plan to address the issues in place before opening.

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AlvinofDiaspar said:
At this point, does it really matter if they announce it within the next 19 days? After the debacle of Line 6, they should have at the very least a plan to address the issues in place before opening.

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If you are referring to signal priority and bringing speeds up to normal levels when opening that will likely take months if not years... no point holding our breath for that. Rather have the line open and then MTO/City/Metrolinx/TTC and other partners figure out the speed.

If thats the logic, might as well wait for the EG W LRT Extension to be ready and have even a faster "crosstown". Only 4-5 years to go for that or at least they say.
 
toronto647 said:
If you are referring to signal priority and bringing speeds up to normal levels when opening that will likely take months if not years... no point holding our breath for that. Rather have the line open and then MTO/City/Metrolinx/TTC and other partners figure out the speed.

If thats the logic, might as well wait for the EG W LRT Extension to be ready and have even a faster "crosstown". Only 4-5 years to go for that or at least they say.
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Agreed - others can use the line 5 shuttle if they want faster speeds...

Otherwise, RSD is done. Substantial Completion is done. Open it up. I hate how the TTC and Metrolinx are using the cloud of unknown problems to delay opening further.
 
Johnny Au said:
December 7, 2025:

1978 Concourse Vending Machines:
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Speaking of Cedarvale, I am trying to figure this one out:

The new Line 5 entrance out to Eglinton West and Everden (the sole south side entrance) has three fare gates to enter/exit. Two are widened accessible wheelchair logoed gates. It's absolutely crucial to have such accessible gates in place to allow for accessibility devices and people in general. BUT this gate leads to an exit which is strictly stair-access only. In fact it's one of the more onerous staircases on the system, with 4.5 flights of stairs. I am no fitness paragon, but I am gassed when I climb these. There is absolutely no way anyone could get up or down these stairs with a mobility device.

I don't understand the motivation for having the accessible gates. While it might seem to be harmless to have them, and maybe it just fit the space better, some accessibility-needing users might take these gates to mean they should use them to exit the station. They will be in for a surprise. I do note there is an elevator on the paid side of the gates, which doesn't lead to the Eglinton/Everden exit but to a mezzanine level where you have to find another elevator to get up to a north side exit.

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Also, it seems they are starting to put clear panels on the garbage receptacles. Most of the ones in the station when it opened just had the bags loose and open to passersby which was pretty ugly and cheap looking.

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Lastly, no photo, because I'm not a jerk, but shout out to the Santa-bearded TTC staffer who is stationed in the new underground fare booth. Dude has absolutely nothing to do. I wave at him as he sits with his feet propped up, staring into space. I'm sure he's earned it. But may he have more passengers to assist soon!
 
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Bojaxs said:
It's quite damning that people are now suggesting it'll be faster to get to Mt. Dennis from Scarborough by riding line 2 to Dundas West and then take the UP from Bloor GO. Probably even quicker once the tunnel connecting Dundas W. with Bloor GO is complete.
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As it stands now, it's also faster for people on the northern section of Line 1 Yonge to get to Kennedy by getting on Line 2 at Bloor-Yonge.

A. Transfer at Yonge-Eglinton: 5 minutes for transfer, 37 minutes on Line 5
B. Transfer at Bloor-Yonge: 9 more minutes on Line 1, 5 minutes for transfer, 23 minutes on Line 2
 
Steve Munro reports that there are rumours of issues in the underground section of Line 5 with tracks and signals, meaning that there will likely be slow zones during operation.

"Trains won't drop down the portal at Brentcliffe and fly to Mount Dennis."
 
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