Woodbridge_Heights
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I remember these!
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Toronto Pearson International Airport
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nfitz
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That's what I remember. Did they change them before it closed?
Tim MacDonald
Senior Member
Was this a 1960s shot? It's been a very long time but I only recall flat belts and no carousels at the old Terminal One. It does look like it was an international arrivals area with the inspection counters and international arrivals were in the centre with domestic belts at opposite ends. Initially, I thought the black area was the central elevator and stair bank but now I don't think it is. I can't tell if that is an escalator peeking through the pillars but I recall the escalator being at the end. Is this really the old terminal one because it doesn't look like it to me. Nevertheless, this is a great shot of airport terminal infrastructure.
drum118
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Tim MacDonald
Senior Member
Was this ranking done by the same company that said Air Canada was one of Canada's best employers? These things seem to be bought and paid for and complete bullshit.
Maybe the gtaa didn't pay up and ranked last.
Maybe the gtaa didn't pay up and ranked last.
evandyk
Senior Member
It's a customer satisfaction survey. Pearson just didn't satisfy the customers.
I don't think JD Power does a ranking of best employers. The main one in Canada is done by Mediacorp. But those rankings truly are bullshit, as the company sends out a survey to the HR departments of all the big companies, who submit their responses, and then they do the ranking based on how good the HR department is at boasting about what they think they are achieving.
I don't think JD Power does a ranking of best employers. The main one in Canada is done by Mediacorp. But those rankings truly are bullshit, as the company sends out a survey to the HR departments of all the big companies, who submit their responses, and then they do the ranking based on how good the HR department is at boasting about what they think they are achieving.
Mihairokov
Senior Member
JD Power is usually bullshit but for stuff like this in particular I assume the larger airports get lower scores because more people simply use them (and complain about them).
Like yeah, the poor saps that have to fly through Ontario International are probably much fewer and have fewer complaints than the millions that traverse Pearson.
Like yeah, the poor saps that have to fly through Ontario International are probably much fewer and have fewer complaints than the millions that traverse Pearson.
evandyk
Senior Member
Toronto is being compared to other airports of similar (including much bigger) sizes. Surveys always have their shortcomings, but I think it's pretty fair to conclude that people just dislike Pearson more than people dislike Phoenix, Detroit and Minneapolis (or the other 15 "mega" airports that got better survey results).
Admiral Beez
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I noticed that preclearance was very lightly populated during a pre-booked trip to the US in July. And now the US government is noticing too, and threatening to close the service.
Just imagine how empty it would be if Canadians had to run the risk of passing US customs on US soil, and being detained by ICE. If this change happens, Pearson’s US departures gate will be a ghost town.
rdaner
Senior Member
^I can tell you from experience that the US gates are already eerily quiet. If this keeps up the US airlines will be facing renewals for expensive gates that they’re loosing money on!
guavadelic
Active Member
I don't know if the U.S. government is seriously considering closing pre-clearance, or if its one MAGA ambassador offended at Canadians standing up for themselves and lashing out.
rbt
Senior Member
The obvious canary will be YTZ which was announced as a preclearance expansion a year ago. If they intend to roll back the program, halting this in-progress expansion is an obvious place to start.
Frankly between Electronic Travel Authorizations, automated passport control gates, and upcoming mandatory use of biometric boarding passes [optional Digital Identification for Air Canada rolled out to YVR]; I'd think most of the benefits of a manned preclearance program will be taken care of.
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Tim MacDonald
Senior Member
This is likely nothing more than a negotiating tactic for the 2026 CUSMA renewal.
Richard White
Senior Member
To be fair.. having pre-clearance isn't a dealbreaker.
narduch
Senior Member
Travelers still willing to travel to the USA probably won't be put off by this