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[smallspy]

so is this an indicator of the start of the 3 month countdown? do they still need 3 months AFTER their training or can this be concurrrent?

As I understand it, the countdown starts upon the issuance of substantial completion, followed by full operation of the line for at least 2 board periods. Because of how the TTC's board periods are set up, this may be longer than 3 months. I don't know the specifics of the contract, so I don't know if the training can be done concurrently with the project closeout, or if substantial completion must occur first.

Dan

 

[PL1]

As I understand it, the countdown starts upon the issuance of substantial completion, followed by full operation of the line for at least 2 board periods. Because of how the TTC's board periods are set up, this may be longer than 3 months. I don't know the specifics of the contract, so I don't know if the training can be done concurrently with the project closeout, or if substantial completion must occur first.

Dan

I'll get excited when I see the barricades/fences come down at the stairs and paved path into Sunnybrook park/ET Seaton (Leslie and Eg).

 

[kotsy]

Premier Doug Ford’s office directed Metrolinx to keep Crosstown opening date secret, emails show

Ford's office says the government didn't want to release the scheduled opening of the LRT because it had doubts it would be met.

www.thestar.com

paywall bypass: https://archive.is/R7J4i

 

[Dan416]

Premier Doug Ford’s office directed Metrolinx to keep Crosstown opening date secret, emails show

Ford's office says the government didn't want to release the scheduled opening of the LRT because it had doubts it would be met.

www.thestar.com

paywall bypass: https://archive.is/R7J4i

I wonder what that date was that Ford & co. didn't have faith in?

 

[Bureaucromancer]

I wonder what that date was that Ford & co. didn't have faith in?

The question to me is whether they are still aiming for it or things have slipped again since then... I think it's looking safe to say that they absolutely are (or at least were until recently) targeting the end of this year.

As annoying as this situation is I don't think I can fault the political logic in 2023... This is an open government issue in the legal sense much more than a Doug Ford being Doug Ford issue.

 

[urbancog]

I don't see how Ford taking away the pressure on Crosslinx of a committed opening date is unfaultable political logic.

 

[DopeyFish]

I wonder what that date was that Ford & co. didn't have faith in?

i see it as they had a multi year delay on their hands and didn't want the project to make them look bad

not that they didn't believe the date

 

[dowlingm]

I don't see how Ford taking away the pressure on Crosslinx of a committed opening date is unfaultable political logic.

How does that put pressure on Crosslinx? A couple of press stories about Metrolinx demanding arbitrary dates putting safety at risk and you’re back at square 1

 

[Admiral Beez]

A couple of press stories about Metrolinx demanding arbitrary dates putting safety at risk and you’re back at square 1

What’s the safety risk? Surely after two years of delays we’ve sorted out safety issues?

 

[urbancog]

Remember that we're not talking about Metrolinx imposing dates, the position has been that Metrolinx did not believe the substantial completion date being provided by Crosslinx. So we'd be moving to a position where Metrolinx has accepted Crosslinx's latest proposed date and informed TTC to gear up to start operating the line.

The companies that make up Crosslinx include Ellis Don & Aecon both of whom would suffer local reputational harm from committing to a date and then missing it again. I don't mention AtkinsRealis here because I think their local reputation in the transit area is already tarnished by being the lead contractor for both the Ottawa Line 1 and the Crosstown consortia.

 

[nfitz]

They don't call it AtkinsFraudilis for nothing.

If think TTC's approval would be more significant than Metrolinx at this stage. They are the ones that will be putting the safety of their staff at risk of there's an operational safety issue.

And would have to deal with the months of shuttle buses if Crosslinx Ottawa's it.

 

[AHK]

TTC drivers who have chosen to move over to the Crosstown (and Finch West) are beginning to get their training dates. This time, the scheduled starting dates for training are for mid-August and early September.

Dan

TTC drivers about to start their training will take drivers out of their regular cycles - some backfill required. Walking along King between Spadina and Portland around midday today, three streetcars went by with operators on training runs.

 

[JasonParis]

That explains the 'even more than usual' amount of training cars on King these days.

 

[kotsy]

A good laugh going into the weekend

Train washing post for yet-to-be-opened Eglinton Crosstown LRT raises ire

Ontario government officials haven't provided a public, in-depth update on the Eglinton Crosstown LRT since December.

toronto.citynews.ca

 

[PL1]

A good laugh going into the weekend

Train washing post for yet-to-be-opened Eglinton Crosstown LRT raises ire

Ontario government officials haven't provided a public, in-depth update on the Eglinton Crosstown LRT since December.

toronto.citynews.ca

I'd argue we want to keep expensive equipment in good condition. Even though it is unfortunately not being used for passengers, it's still being used. Still, it might have been wise for Metrolinx to save that video until the line has been open a couple of months.

Whenever that is.

Edit: autocorrect