Toronto Eglinton Line 5 | ?m | ?s | Metrolinx | Arcadis

[felix123]

I wish the would construct in a way that we could open a few stations at a time instead of waiting for the whole damn thing to be done.

Fully agree, especially since it sounds like most of the line could be tested and opened earlier, with only a few stations needing to be bypassed.

 

[robmausser]

I wish the would construct in a way that we could open a few stations at a time instead of waiting for the whole damn thing to be done.

The issue is that the two stations that are the most delayed are the two most important stations on the line, at Eglinton and Eglinton West.

So opening it before they are done is almost pointless, and they will be the last to be done.

 

[cplchanb]

Fully agree, especially since it sounds like most of the line could be tested and opened earlier, with only a few stations needing to be bypassed.

They could've easily opened the Eastern above grade portion and terminate at science centere but in pursuit of their politcal ego verster insisted it all open at once... shame really..

 

[cplchanb]

The issue is that the two stations that are the most delayed are the two most important stations on the line, at Eglinton and Eglinton West.

So opening it before they are done is almost pointless, and they will be the last to be done.

It's already been debated endlessly before but there many technical merits on a phased opening such as being able to debug while at a lower operational tempo and to fine tune operations slto be better prepared for the actual real world loads. Testing with no actual ridership can only go so far. A lrv full of water jerries can't simulate the day to day operations of people walking in and out, abusing the doors and fittings and the continuous stop start motions at varying loads.

 

[T3G]

You realize the TTC has been operating these for the last 8 years, and should therefore have a ton of operational data that eliminates the need for a phased opening, right?

 

[SaugeenJunction]

They could've easily opened the Eastern above grade portion and terminate at science centere but in pursuit of their politcal ego verster insisted it all open at once... shame really..

It makes zero sense to open early without at least one subway interchange stop.

 

[Steve X]

They could've easily opened the Eastern above grade portion and terminate at science centere but in pursuit of their politcal ego verster insisted it all open at once... shame really..

I feel like there is a lot more problems to solve than Eglinton station that is causing the delay.

 

[cplchanb]

You realize the TTC has been operating these for the last 8 years, and should therefore have a ton of operational data that eliminates the need for a phased opening, right?

What are you talking about....where has ttc been running flexity freedoms in a real world setting??!

 

[cplchanb]

It makes zero sense to open early without at least one subway interchange stop.

I'd say Kennedy is probably in much better shape than the western end. They can start with that

 

[cplchanb]

I feel like there is a lot more problems to solve than Eglinton station that is causing the delay.

It was quoted by him that he wants to have it all at the same time even though crosslinx have also publicly said that they are very able to phase it from a technical and operational aspect. It was for sure a bureaucratic decision. You see the language in the press statement? He continually holds crosslinx in contempt every time they make a similar press release. Clearly verster hates the guts out of crosslinx

 

[youngblood]

 

[Admiral Beez]

The issue is that the two stations that are the most delayed are the two most important stations on the line, at Eglinton and Eglinton West.

Why didn’t they construct those two first and foremost then?

 

[Amare]

They could've easily opened the Eastern above grade portion and terminate at science centere but in pursuit of their politcal ego verster insisted it all open at once... shame really..

And how exactly would they reliably get trains from the MSF, and back over there reliably on a day to day basis?

 

[generalcanada]

And how exactly would they reliably get trains from the MSF, and back over there reliably on a day to day basis?

remember theyve been running trains on test end-to-end for a few months now.
just because you cant use the station doesnt mean that the rails are fully operational

 

[TossYourJacket]

Why didn’t they construct those two first and foremost then?

In all fairness, those stations have a complex issue none of the other stations have. Underpinning an operational subway line. At Kennedy the platforms are parallel so they didn't have that problem, but Eglinton and Cedarvale both need extensive supports built to hold the Line 1 tunnel in place before any real construction below could begin. There's just a longer timeline to build these stations than any of the others. Doesn't excuse the mismanagement of the project Crosslinx has done here, but there's a reason why it's these two stations that are the problem. And Eglinton Station also has the additional element of moving the Line 1 platform northward, on top of everything else.