AlvinofDiaspar
Moderator
They aren't higher volume than Y+B. The only remotely justifiable reason is probably inadequate platform capacity (which wasn't acknowledged as an issue for the longest time) in general.
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Toronto Union Station Revitalization | ?m | ?s | City of Toronto | NORR
They aren't higher volume than Y+B. The only remotely justifiable reason is probably inadequate platform capacity (which wasn't acknowledged as an issue for the longest time) in general.
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Richard White
Senior Member
True but after the incident that occurred their lawyers are likely looking to avoid another incident. I can see them not wanting to take any more chances.
Northern Light
Superstar
I have been led to believe that escalators are being 'considered' as part of the platform widening project. Whether they proceed w/them is a different question altogether.
Leo_Chan
Senior Member
Triple the platform width, double the vertical access, implment level boarding, and add a fully covered roof can increase capacity and allow for escalators.
11th
Senior Member
When they move towards more of a metro frequency service, escalators shouldn't be a problem. If Tokyo (station) can do it, I don't see how Union (with improvements to platforms width) can't.
Jonny5
Senior Member
Could it be the escalator avoidance is the same issue as the elevator issue in Ontario; there's a huge shortage of maintenance and repair people for them and it's very expensive to contract for repairs out of warranty? Transit agencies also appear to not approve at all of people walking on escalators that are shut off pending maintenance and rope them off, so you lose all the capacity when it's down and that causes huge platform backlogs. You can't have an escalator as a critical piece of infrastructure to move crowds when it takes a week to get it back in service every time it goes down.
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urbanyimby
Active Member
@union2pearson , The Tim Hortons building application has now been updated with the words "Great Hall" (and has been refused yesterday).
Can you comment as to where exactly this is?
Can you comment as to where exactly this is?
Richard White
Senior Member
IIRC this is on the north side of the Great Hall. A restuarant was intended for the space and quite frankly I'm glad it's not a Tim's.
urbanyimby
Active Member
we've already established that this space in the Great Hall is for offices. It's definitely not where Tim's gonna go
Richard White
Senior Member
Short of ripping out the ticket windows where else would it go in the great hall?
Woodbridge_Heights
Senior Member
Yeah, me to.
According to this image:
Unit # 201 is in the far south west corner of the station. I can see the desire to not have that area taken over by a tim hortons crowd.
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Richard White
Senior Member
Yeah, me to.
According to this image:
Unit # 201 is in the far south west corner of the station. I can see the desire to not have that area taken over by a tim hortons crowd.
Now that I see the map I can see why tims would want to go there.
It is the corner closest to the arena. Perfect for catching the crowds
urbanyimby
Active Member
@union2pearson has already indicated that this layout is outdated and has been modified. could you please stop rushing to conclusions?
Richard White
Senior Member
Of course. ?
AnotherCanuck
New Member
Yeah, that map places 201 in the Bay Concourse, not the Great Hall as the proposal indicates.
Either way, regardless of the location, I'm happy to see it refused. Tim Hortons needs to go away.
Either way, regardless of the location, I'm happy to see it refused. Tim Hortons needs to go away.