King of Kensington
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People here sure seem to be viewing the police with rose-colored glasses.
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Black Lives Matter Toronto
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BlackLivesMatterJeff
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Sandra Hudson deserved every penny and Yusra Khogali is just speaking the truth on how she was oppressed by whites. You have to be an ignorant bigot not to get that.
What a bunch of lies! BLM homophobic? Where's your proof of this? Oh that's right, you don't have any and I'm supposed to take your word for it!
BlackLivesMatterJeff
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Finally a normal comment! The police are racist pigs and no progressive organization should have anything to do with them which is why Pride knows what's good for them and listened to BLM.
BlackLivesMatterJeff
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That white cop was racially profiling a black man. He deserved it! And the pig took my iPhone away so I couldn't record any of it.
Pointing out to a cop that he's racially profiling black people should not be a crime.
I confronted RACISTS. What part of racist don't you understand. If you are a racist, you forfeit all the fundamental rights including the right to self-defense.
It doesn't matter that I was born white. The biker pigs were racists and I'm anti-racist. Therefore the attack was racist.
loooooooooooooooooool @ me not knowing what I'm talking. First off I'm not a nationalist because I'm for BLM and not some white Neo-Nazi group. How can you be a born white BLM supporter and be a racist/nationalist? It doesn't make sense. Second how am I authoritarian? I'm part of Antifa as well, that means anti-fascist and not fascist therefore anti-authoratiran.
Migos
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Racism
Migos
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As for Hudson, she is a known thief: http://thevarsity.ca/2016/05/04/uts...with-former-vice-president-internal-services/
Anybody with a brain realizes that she is scum. Who steals from the student union?
Anybody with a brain realizes that she is scum. Who steals from the student union?
King of Kensington
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Blue Lives Matter!
Seriously, individual police can participate as private citizens if they wish. This argument that the exclusion of TPS as an institution constitutes is some form of "discrimination" is ridiculous.
Nor is it hypocritical to exclude them from pride while expecting them to provide security. That's their job and they're paid very well to do it. At the same time the communities they serve can tell them to do better.
Carding is still TPS policy by the way.
Seriously, individual police can participate as private citizens if they wish. This argument that the exclusion of TPS as an institution constitutes is some form of "discrimination" is ridiculous.
Nor is it hypocritical to exclude them from pride while expecting them to provide security. That's their job and they're paid very well to do it. At the same time the communities they serve can tell them to do better.
Carding is still TPS policy by the way.
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ttk77
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I don't think anyone here is trying to argue that the police are angels. There are definite problems with systematic discrimination/abuse against minorities in the police ranks regardless of any public policy. In my mind, the argument boils down to, do we say they're not doing enough to improve and exclude them until they're doing better, or do we celebrate the strides they have made and then use that to bring them closer and open a dialog about what they need to start doing better? I personally believe that the latter will yield better results.
AlvinofDiaspar
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There is an easy way around all this - have a BLM march like the Dyke March (the latter arouse precisely because of increased visibility and concerns over being left in the sidelines - and TPS won't be a part of that)
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King of Kensington
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No, but there does seem to a general view that the police are "reasonable" and BLM is ridiculous.
King of Kensington
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Juan_Lennon416
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BlackLivesMatterJeff troll is back! 
Admiral Beez
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Indeed.BlackLivesMatterJeff troll is back!
However if you put BLMJ on your Ignore list, and disregard the earnest but fruitless attempts to respond to BLMJ, the entire thread takes on a much more civil discourse on the topic.
Give it a shot, it really changes the mood from frantic shouting and insults to open discourse and discussion.
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Admiral Beez
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It's not their job, which is why it's taken on as part-time Paid Duty work. It entirely possible that the police heads or their union orders their membership to refuse paid duty. That will force Pride to provide their own security, on their dime.
The Union's position....
“We would always provide security (as is required at any normal protest or parade) but why would we do anything more than the bare minimum,” he said. “The message is clear we are not welcome.” http://www.torontosun.com/2017/01/18/pride-ban-slap-in-the-face-to-cops-mccormack
The TPS precedents...
TPS aren't obliged to police free security for events. TPS have refused paid duty for large events before, https://www.thestar.com/news/crime/...spended-at-muzik-after-multiple-shooting.html
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to_l
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Regardless of how this pans out, the schism has been widen and the rift has deepened between the TPS, as a whole, and the LGBTQ community.
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