Vancouver Evergreen Line

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  1. unimaginative2

    unimaginative2 Senior Member

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    The Evergreen Skytrain line in Vancouver looks like it's about to start construction. It will be an extension of the existing Millennium Skytrain line to Coquitlam and Port Moody.

    Mayors want province, Ottawa to ante up for Evergreen transit line
    Concern mounting that project will begin without full funding in place


    Vancouver — From Friday's Globe and Mail
    Published on Friday, Mar. 12, 2010 12:00AM EST

    Last updated on Friday, Mar. 12, 2010 11:19AM EST


    .Metro Vancouver's mayors are calling on the B.C. and federal governments to agree - before construction starts next year - to help TransLink pay its share of the cost of building and operating the Evergreen light-rail transit line.

    The group - the mayors' council that oversees the transit authority - gathered in a closed meeting yesterday morning. A late addition to the agenda was Premier Gordon Campbell's announcement on Monday that construction of the Evergreen line will begin next year, even with a $400-million funding gap unresolved.

    According to the mayors' council, the province announced that construction of the new rapid transit line through the northeastern part of the Lower Mainland will begin despite TransLink's failure to raise its $400-million share of the construction costs. Mayors are concerned about starting the $1.4-billion transit line before sustainable funding mechanisms are established.

    "The minute you stick a shovel in the ground and start to build it, you better have the capital dollars you need to build it," said Langley Mayor Peter Fassbender, who chairs the TransLink mayors' council. "Coupled with that, you also need the operating dollars to run the system after it's built."

    The federal and provincial governments and TransLink agreed to share the cost of the 11-kilometre transit line. TransLink, however, has been unable to come up with its $400-million share because its budget is already overstretched. Mr. Fassbender said TransLink is still determining how to cover the funding gap for construction, as well as long-term operating costs.

    "Carbon pricing policies and road pricing policies are options that we need to be looking at in the future," Mr. Fassbender said. "The mayors' council has not ruled anything out, but we just don't have a solution yet."

    Transportation Minister Shirley Bond said TransLink's inability to provide its share will not stop the province from moving on the project.

    "The mayors have certainly had their chance to move the Evergreen line forward and they have not been able to meet the commitment they made to bring dollars to the table," said Ms. Bond, speaking to reporters in Victoria yesterday. "We think the Evergreen line is important and so do the people who have been waiting for decades. We're going to get it done."

    However, it remains unclear where the province would get the money.

    Ms. Bond said she will meet Mr. Fassbender next week to discuss the project.

    "Our goal is to get the Evergreen line moving," Ms. Bond said.

    The mayors said they hope this will be a time to rally for increased government support to make up TransLink's share.

    "We hope to find a long-term solution for the operating costs that would look at all of the sources, whether they are municipal, federal or provincial," Mr. Fassbender said.

    "It has to be all of us looking at what we can do to find the sustainable solutions."
     
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  2. wyliepoon

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    Interesting that Vancouver is so committed to developing a regional ICTS system, while here in Toronto, where ICTS would be considered inadequate (as the SRT has demonstrated), we are stuck with the LRT-based Transit City plan.
     
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  3. officedweller

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    The Evergreen Line was originally Phase II of the Millennium Line (together with the Broadway West extension as far as Granville or Arbutus) - called the PMC Line (Port Moody - Coquitlam) at the time. It was cancelled by the Liberals when they cam into power in about 2001-ish due to budget concerns - the cost would have been about $700 million at the time.

    In the meantime, the Liberals eventually changed priorities to the Canada Line which was completed for the Olympics. The Canada Line only received approval at the regional government level if the Evergreen Line was built "concurrently" - it wasn't (due to funding issues).

    During that time, TransLink decided that the Evergreen Line was better as a cheaper LRT line instead of Bombardier technology (SkyTrain) (but still requiring a long tunnel through a mountain) - Vancouver was destined to get a forced transfer akin to the SRT problem (but SkyTrain-LRT versus Subway-SRT).

    In January 2008, the BC Liberals then made a unilateral decsion to revert back to SkyTrain technology for the Evergreen Line, which would provide a one-seat ride to Vancouver (as the originally conceived Millennium Line) and connect all of the major regional town centres with ALRT (ICTS). The cost of the line has risen to $1.4 billion. Each of Ottawa and Victoria have pledged about $400 million each. TransLink's $400 million share is the part that is unknown. A private partner is expected to provide the final $200 million.

    Government website here:
    http://www.evergreenline.gov.bc.ca/

    Project Description Report:
    http://a100.gov.bc.ca/appsdata/epic...a5626dc015e45680501a6337f0fa3bf540e5a19c4.pdf

    Renderings:
    http://www.evergreenline.gov.bc.ca/image_gallery.htm
     
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  4. Long Island Mike

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    Everyone: This link is interesting: www.infrastructurist.com - Look for this section: 10 Most Expensive Transit Projects of the Decade(Spendin' money takin' time)...it mentions some of Vancouver's projects...and those interested in transportation may found many other topics interesting...too many to single out here...Scroll down to see what they cover...LI MIKE
     
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  5. officedweller

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    Lincoln Station - a "future station" just got funding from the Feds as well as from the owners of Coquitlam Shopping Centre as a public - private partnership

    http://www.fin.gc.ca/n12/12-081-eng.asp
     
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    SNC Lavalin selected to design, build and finance Evergreen Line.
    SELI bored the False Creek and downtown sections of the Canada Line tunnel.

    http://www.evergreenline.gov.bc.ca/document_centre.htm
     
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  7. officedweller

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    They've finally announced the awarding of the major contract - to the SNC Lavalin consortium noted in the previous post
    - now called EGRT Construction for
    a $889 million contract to design, build and finance the 11 km Evergreen Line (7 stations; 2 km tunnel, some at grade, some elevated).
    Someone posted on SSP that the tunnel will be a single large diameter bore instead of two parallel tunnels (no stations within the tunnel segment, which goes through a mountain).
    The line will open in Summer 2016.

    News Release:
    http://www.evergreenline.gov.bc.ca/documents/InformationBulletin/2013TRAN0006-000132.pdf

    A $90.7 million contract with Bombardier was announced in December for 28 SkyTrain cars (confirmed to be MK-III (Innovia 300 series)). Note that rolling stock is being purchased separately since TransLink will be the operator:
    http://www.evergreenline.gov.bc.ca/documents/InformationBulletin/2012TRAN0118-001948.pdf

    FAQs:
    http://www.evergreenline.gov.bc.ca/faq.htm

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    http://www.evergreenline.gov.bc.ca/image_gallery.htm

    In addition to the announcement for Lincoln Station (posted above), there was a report (but no official press release (so far)) about accommodation for a future station at Cameron St. (halfway between Lougheed and Burquilam, on the map, above):

     
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  8. CDL.TO

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    I'm really impressed that Vancouver seems to be building an elevated alignment along North Road/Clarke. In Toronto I'm quite certain that we would claim that there isn't sufficient room for one through there.

    Plus it's a "stable neighbourhood", where I'm sure we would feel the need to tunnel. Clearly there are some different ideas in Greater Vancouver when it comes to rapid transit planning.
     
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    Elevated was a given - it's down the middle of the road because it's the municipal boundary between Burnaby and Coquitlam and neither of them wanted the impacts on having it on their side of the street (although, as seen with the Canada Line in Richmond, a side of road allignment allows a lower elevation). A future station at Cameron will require a very tall guideway to accommodate a station mezzanine.

    Part of the "pre-construction" works was the widening of North Road by one lane to lessen the impact during the construction.
     
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    Partnerships BC's Final Project Report:

    http://www.partnershipsbc.ca/files-4/documents/Evergreen-Final-Project-Report_2012-03-27.pdf

     
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    Posted by nname at SSP - the redacted copy of the procurement contract has been released.

    Those of you interested in wayfinding will find Appendix H to be interesting - it is one of the only schedules not redacted and includes TransLink's Wayfinding Standards Manual.

    http://www.partnershipsbc.ca/files-4/project-elrt-schedules/Schedule-4_Appendix-H.pdf


    And my post - the train movements at Lougheed have been confirmed.
    Evergreen Line will through run from VCC-Carke to/from Douglas-LaFarge and the current Millennium Line will termnate at Lougheed.

     
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    Good to see transit growing in Vancouver.
     
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    http://news.gc.ca/web/article-eng.do?nid=763169

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    http://www.vancitybuzz.com/2013/08/first-columns-built-for-skytrain-evergreen-line/
     
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    http://www.tunneltalk.com/Evergreen-LRT-29May2013-Vancouver-confirms-Caterpillar-as-TBM-supplier.php

    This Doha Metro single bore tunnel looks like the same diameter:

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    http://www.tunneltalk.com/Doha-Metro-Dec11-Qatar-drives-forward-with-rail-projects.php

    Turin (VAL) Metro tunnel:

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    http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Metro_Turin_Italy_Tunnel.JPG

    Here's a video of the Turin VAL Metro for a preview of what it'll look like:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0gGPJWGDXg
     
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  15. Edward

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    I usage increasing significantly as the system expands as it has?
     
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