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Toronto's Future Population

Northeastern 574.5 571.6 567.5 569.1 573.9 579.1 584.0 587.0 587.9
Algoma 123.8 121.2 120.2 119.9 119.3 119.1 118.9 118.4 117.6
Cochrane 89.5 86.9 84.5 84.1 83.3 82.7 82.2 81.4 80.5
Manitoulin 13.2 13.5 13.6 13.8 14.0 14.2 14.4 14.5 14.6
Nipissing 86.3 87.4 86.2 86.8 88.2 89.7 90.9 91.9 92.7
Parry Sound 41.2 42.4 42.6 42.9 43.9 45.0 46.1 47.1 48.0
Greater Sudbury 161.1 163.8 165.0 166.8 170.7 174.3 177.5 179.9 181.3
Sudbury 23.7 22.0 21.6 21.3 20.8 20.4 20.2 20.0 19.8
Timiskaming 35.7 34.3 33.7 33.6 33.6 33.7 33.8 33.7 33.4
Northwestern 246.5 245.0 240.0 239.3 238.9 239.0 238.7 237.3 234.8
Kenora 66.5 68.6 66.9 67.3 69.1 70.8 71.8 72.3 72.4
Rainy River 22.9 22.3 21.8 21.6 21.3 21.1 20.9 20.5 20.1
Thunder Bay 157.0 154.2 151.4 150.3 148.5 147.1 146.0 144.5 142.4

NE Ontario shows a slight increase.

NW Ontario is losing pop.
 
What are the intervals? 5-years? What's the starting year.

Wow ... that's quite an exodus from Thunder Bay.
 
Northeastern 574.5 571.6 567.5 569.1 573.9 579.1 584.0 587.0 587.9
Algoma 123.8 121.2 120.2 119.9 119.3 119.1 118.9 118.4 117.6
Cochrane 89.5 86.9 84.5 84.1 83.3 82.7 82.2 81.4 80.5
Manitoulin 13.2 13.5 13.6 13.8 14.0 14.2 14.4 14.5 14.6
Nipissing 86.3 87.4 86.2 86.8 88.2 89.7 90.9 91.9 92.7
Parry Sound 41.2 42.4 42.6 42.9 43.9 45.0 46.1 47.1 48.0
Greater Sudbury 161.1 163.8 165.0 166.8 170.7 174.3 177.5 179.9 181.3
Sudbury 23.7 22.0 21.6 21.3 20.8 20.4 20.2 20.0 19.8
Timiskaming 35.7 34.3 33.7 33.6 33.6 33.7 33.8 33.7 33.4
NE Ontario shows a slight increase.

There is a distinct shift south and east in the north's population, though we are missing the numbers for SSM confirm that. (Nipissing is North Bay, right?)
I theorize that an urban north will no longer be possible much north of Lake Nipigon. Well paying manufacturing jobs that sustain the population of small cities won't locate any further from Southern Ontario.
If Bombardier had to build the streetcar factory from scratch right now, I doubt they would choose Thunder Bay.
 
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Waterloo Region is trying to get their own local greenbelt around the three cities added to the provincial greenbelt plan so that it will be preserved in perpetuity. Quite admirable.

The main problem with development in Waterloo Region is that everybody wants to live in the City of Waterloo, the city with the least available development land. There's loads of developable land left in Kitchener, but a house in most parts of Kitchener could go for $100,000 less than a comparable in most parts of Waterloo.
 
Do you guys thing that all this population growth for the region or do you think our quality of life will suffer with the loss of farmland, greenspace and paralysing traffic and smog?

It's going to suffer. I know others would disagree but something tells me we're already seeing the beginning of this. For different reasons I think our standard of living and quality of life will be less in the future.
 
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^Really? Toronto was crap in the mid-90s, and if my parents are right, absolutely appalling in the 70s. Squaresville USA it was.

Did you see Ossington's Cuban-themed party this weekend? Crazy busy, and while some WT douche bag types annoyed the hell out of me, and tons of 905 sleazy trash were around, overall I enjoyed chatting with a diverse ethnic crowd of hotties.:D

Now, if only Ossington wasn't so white/yuppie by day.:(

Tkip--do you live in Lawrence Park?
 
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Huh? Where are these houses? I'm in Doon and my condo is 200,000.
But what about in Kitchener proper; Doon is hardly spitting distance from downtown Kitchener.

I'm not sure the price difference is $100,000 (though it's been a few years since I was house hunting in KW) ... but I'd say there's definitely a price difference.
 
Most old condos in Kitchener (2 beds 2 baths... huge ... 1200+ square feet) go fo 100 -160K - they can go for even less ... waterloo is a bit more but not much ... these are accurate based on a month or so ago, went on a huge hunt to find a place. (not for me).
Now newer condos (very new i.e. 5 years or less), they can be a lot lot more ... in 'nice' areas in say uptown Waterloo for a Toronto size 2 bedroom could easily be very high 200ish - 360K
 
Most old condos in Kitchener (2 beds 2 baths... huge ... 1200+ square feet) go fo 100 -160K - they can go for even less ... waterloo is a bit more but not much ... these are accurate based on a month or so ago, went on a huge hunt to find a place. (not for me).
Now newer condos, they can be a lot lot more ... in 'nice' areas in say uptown Waterloo for a Toronto size 2 bedroom could easily be very high 200ish - 360K
The original poster did say houses ... not condos.
 
i think the reason why Toronto was "crap" in the 90's had something to do with that big recession. And the provincial cuts made by Harris. It was a bad decade for this city.
 
Some municipalities have enacted bylaws trying to limit the number of occupants per bedroom or unit. For example, there are some cities that want to limit bedrooms to be occupied by no more than 2 people. (Get your crying baby out of your bed!) Others limit a unit to no more than 8. (No TV reality shows for you!)

A few years ago, I worked on the federal census. We actually received census forms that indicated that there were houses or apartments had more than 8 people in them. I remember personally checking one form that said that an apartment (not a house) had 15 people in it. (Sorry, don't remember where, and if I could remember, I would not be able to tell you where.)

I'm guessing that Rob Ford would be one person who would want to enforce such a occupancy bylaw in Toronto.

The trouble I find is that in a recession, people are trying to save money, including lodging costs. One way to save money is to squeeze in more people into a residence.
 

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