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West Harbour City  
Fleet St at Bastion St, Toronto
Developer: Plaza

West Harbour City | ?m | 36s | Plaza | Quadrangle

Discussion in 'Buildings' started by joeto11, Jun 6, 2006.

  1. joeto11

    joeto11 Guest

    here is a render of the second phase of of west harbour city. It looks pretty much like the 1st phase.

  2. alklay

    alklay Guest

    Unless they are building an exact twin, I think that is a picture of the first phase.
  3. The south side is virtually the same, but the north side (as pictured here) does not include the cascading terraces. Urbancorp had quite the winner with phase 1.

  4. alklay

    alklay Guest

    You are right. They are different in that way. Thanks.
  5. mark simpson

    mark simpson Guest

    ^also significantly shorter
  6. I am under the impression that both are to be 36 floors high.

  7. Mike in TO

    Mike in TO Guest

    Phase 2 was initially planned to be approximately 28 stories. The sales office will stay where it is - I'd recommend checking it out - nice suites and layouts with a great model. The energy efficiency measures by the developer are also quite extensive.

    The units in West Habour City are also much more expensive then either Malibou or WaterParkCity - so the tower and the unit interiors as well as the extra energy efficiency measures certainly reflect the higher price points.
  8. mark simpson

    mark simpson Guest

    "I am under the impression that both are to be 36 floors high."

    count the balconies in the rendering
  9. Oliver Tweed

    Oliver Tweed Guest

    Not at all sure, but I was under the impression that the step-terraces were scrapped in favour of the render above. I thought that was the redesign pictured there.
  10. gbelan

    gbelan Guest

    phase 2 has a small podium whereas phase 1 sits on a much higher (10 story) podium
  11. mattrx

    mattrx Guest

    Phase 2 will be 24 stories (plus penthose possibly ?)... The Podium will be 10 stories. In Phase 1 they did 1 floor of alternate plans with terraces on top of the podium, I am not sure if they are doing that with Phase 2.

    They made some minor changes to the tower of phase 2, no terracing like someone else mentioned and the units in the
    "middle" of the tower, have balconies, in phase 1 they did not. The floor plans are very similar to Phase 1.

    There are some of the preview floor plans here for phase 2, for those looking for a sneak peek: WHC Phase 2 Floorplans
  12. Star: West Harbourcity Molson Plant demolition

    From the condos section:

    Wrecking and recycling
    From a brewery to beer cans
    Destruction to construction
    Jun. 17, 2006. 01:00 AM

    It is taking a lot of Molson's muscle to recycle Toronto's landmark lakeside suds factory.

    An environmentally bent demolition company is painstakingly deconstructing the Fleet St. Molson's Brewery, turning it into powdered concrete, ingots of steel and, eventually, aluminum beer cans.

    Even as the Molson building is being taken down, there are still parts of it that tower above the nearby raised Gardner Expressway. The shrinking factory is a beacon for the disappearing industrial district that once employed thousands along Toronto's eastern waterfront. The beer building and almost all other factories and warehouses in the Bathurst and Lake Shore area are being shuttered, shut down and converted into upscale housing projects.

    "This puppy was over-built. There are at least 3,000 metric tons of steel in there. It was as though they were getting ready for World War Three," says Frank Provenzano as he points to a growing pile of twisted steel girders.

    Provenzano is one of four brothers who own and operate ProGreen Demolition, a Concord, Ont., company that specializes in recovering recyclable materials from the buildings it tears down. (The family also owns and operates Anpro Excavating & Grading Ltd.)

    The Molson site is being cleared in two phases to make room for the West Harbour City condominium development, a project dubbed "Toronto's last great downtown waterfront address."

    ProGreen is in the midst of recovering almost 80 per cent of the material in what once was a city-block-long brewery. The company is saving steel girders, concrete walls, brick, aluminum window frames and copper piping. Some of the material is going to recycling companies while the rest will be reused in the construction of the large West Harbour City townhouse condo project on the Fleet St. lot just east of Fort York.

    "In the bad old days of the 20th century a demolition team would come with a tall crane and a wrecking ball," notes Provenzano. "They start at ground level and quickly reduce a building like this into a mountain of unusable rubble.

    "Using our new precision machinery it will take us months to bring this one down. We start at the top floor and our equipment surgically removes those parts of the building that we can reuse."

    At first glance the heavy equipment that is used to reach up and pull out strips of aluminum looks prehistoric. The tongs at the end of the articulated arm of the High Reach "demolition evacuator" machine look and act like the jaws of a T-Rex. Made of heavy iron, they easily brush, bash and snip their way through a factory floor seven storeys high.

    The German-made Liebherr High Reach is a strange-looking piece of heavy equipment. The engine of this 53,000-kilogram evacuator sits affixed to the top of tank-like crawlers. There is an articulated cab attached to the base that tilts up to a 30-degree angle, giving the operator a flexible line of sight into the demolition zone. The most important part of the High Reach is the three-part bendable arm that can snake its 4,400 kg iron tongs through a window and pull out huge pieces of stone and metal.

    This new generation of multi-million dollar equipment is not only versatile, but very clean and quiet, too. The site is beside a new upscale condo project (the Aquarius) and, to date, the demolition has moved forward without any complaints about noise or dust.

    "The secret to our recycling is our experience and in the very strength and precision of the machinery," says Provenzano. "Once we have taken the structural steel out of the building, we have a shearing machine (which looks like a mutant steam shovel with scissors) that snaps the steel into manageable metre-long pieces."

    The steel blocks, along with the recovered copper and aluminum, are trucked from the site to a number of Ontario-based recyclers. Aluminum window frames are melted down by a firm that, fittingly, will use it to make (among other things) beer cans.

    ProGreen does get paid for the scrap, but the real savings for the owners of the site come from not having to pay to dump the rubble in a landfill site. "We will divert about 80 per cent of the material that was used in the Molson building," explains Provenzano, "and the savings to the builder are greater than if they used a traditional wrecker" which would haul the refuse to a dump.

    All of what ProGreen pulls out of the building is reused. The thick concrete floors and walls are ripped down and then pulverized in an unused corner of the lot by a number of machines.

    The concrete will be processed into coarse white particles, which will be used in the making of gravel when construction of West Harbour City begins.

    ProGreen expects to be finished taking down the first phase of the Molson building by the end of June. The southeast section of the 11-storey brown brick building remains intact for now, but will come down when all the condos are sold. It is now the sales centre and has two model suites on the top floor facing Lake Ontario.

    The destruction of the Molson Brewery and the construction of the West Harbour City project are being quarterbacked by The Plazacorp Group/Berkeley Development. The two companies have already teamed to build more than 3,000 condominiums in Toronto including University Plaza on University Ave. and Wellington Square in King West Village.

    Construction of the first phase of West Harbour City will begin this summer and it will probably be a couple of years before the 36-storey limestone-coloured precast tower and accompanying townhouses are completed.

    The complex has more than 100 floor plans ranging from full-size one-bedroom suites to two full-floor penthouses on the 35th and 36th storeys. Units in Phase 2 of West Harbour City will go on sale this summer and range in price from $250,000 to more than $1 million.

  13. I remember when they said construction would begin in January. No surprise here. And lime stone coloured precast? Why even bother.
  14. I find it odd that it took the Star until June 17th to write an article about the Molson plant being demolished.
  15. I find it odd that Plazacorp/Berkeley wants people to know that it is resposible for University Plaza and Wellington Square.


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