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Discussion in 'Buildings' started by Junction416, Feb 23, 2012.

  1. sunnyraytoronto

    sunnyraytoronto Senior Member

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    You make it sounds like downtown Toronto is the centre of the universe.

    You really need to get out to "the suburbs" once in a while,.... and see all the people with MEC branded gear in the suburbs,... yes, these surburbanites actually make that long & horrific trek downtown to the MEC downtown,... whether they drive and fight Toronto traffic congestion to get ripped off on downtown parking or they pay the $3 TTC token to take a heavily subsized TTC ride,.... the same $3 TTC token that it'll cost a downtowner to take a heavily taxpayer subsidized ride to North York IKEA or MEC.

    Actually, there are NOT really any similar options to MEC,.... MEC's $5 co-op fee to access relatively cheaper prices on brand name and good quality MEC products. Sure there are other stores that sell similar brand name items at usually higher prices but they definitely don't carry MEC product.

    If you look at the downtown Toronto MEC membership,.... you'll realize a lot of their membership and demographic is from outside of the downtown core and actually from the suburbs,... that's why they're openning shop in North York,...
     
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  2. stjames2queenwest

    stjames2queenwest Senior Member

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    I do leave downtown. But I know many people who rarely do.

    I don't even know what you are trying to argue at this point.

    MEC on Sheppard. Great.
     
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  3. sunnyraytoronto

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    Just pointing out that not every downtowner has McJob and deal with deep debt. And the vast majority of downtowners can easily afford the $3 TTC token to take the subway to North York IKEA as per all the IKEA items they have,.... soon on their IKEA trip they can also visit the nearby MEC,...... just like many suburbanites often make the trip downtown to visit the only MEC currently around, and they often visit other nearby stores too,... it's not a downtown VS suburb thing,.... we don't live in an insolated world,... it only cost a $3 TTC token for a heavily subsidized TTC ride to anywhere in the city. I'm sure once this Queen Street West MEC opens, many suburbanites will continue to make the trip downtown to visit MEC,.... just as many downtowners will continue to visit IKEA in the suburbs like North York,....
     
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  4. Urban-Affair

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    I love MEC, it's nice to find reasonably priced quality gear for so many sports. Glad to see them expanding to North York also, it's about time there was more than one MEC in the city.
     
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  5. stjames2queenwest

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    I never mentioned a "McJob" People can have good jobs and still have deep dept.

    On the flip side some people have "McJobs" and money in the bank.

    I'm just as much for a north York MEC as I am a downtown ikea.

    Let's just get rid of this ugly parking lot.
     
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  6. sunnyraytoronto

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    Will a downtown IKEA ever happen??? I mean, it's considered a BigBox store and we know how some very vocal downtowners feel about any bigbox stores,..... remember the fight against urban format (half size) Walmart @ Bathurst at old KromerRadio site,.... or HomeDepot on QueenWest near Bathurst,... or even various Loblaws supermarkets including the one going in near KensingtonMarket,... let's face it, the typical size of an IKEA makes these regular BigBox stores (Walmart, HomeDepot, etc,...) look like little mom&pops stores,.... so it's not just the nieghbourhood NIMBY opposition, politics, but also the financials in terms of the amount of real estate needed, the cost of such a large plot of land and would it ever be profitable for IKEA?,.... after all IKEA already got downtowner (even like you) going to the suburban IKEA.

    Hmmm,.. would this Queen Street West MEC (40,480 sq feet) count as bigbox store??? If the retail space is 90,000 square feet or more as the urban format Walmart - that would be considered bigbox

    The parking lot isn't so bad,.... it's an open space in an area lacking of open space,.... yes, it's open space for cars,... but people use it for various activities,.... and it does serve as a staging area for the various freebies samples at are often given out at the corner of Queen Street West & Soho/Peter,..... and that's part of the fun of going to this area, you never know what freebie you might get at this corner,.... sometimes, multiple different freebies (chips, drinks, gums, candy, lotions, food, sunglasses, bags, hats, etc,...) ,.... sometimes nothing,.... those freebies samples will likely disappear when this MEC start construction and they close the parking lot since there will be nowhere for the van/truck full of freebies to park,.... that'll be a chacteristic of Queen Street West that I'll miss,...
     
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  7. innsertnamehere

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    IKEA downtown would be stupid. Most customers drive as furniture, even flat packed, is usually too large to fit on the subway. I don't think anyone complains about the lack of a downtown IKEA, as they understand the requirements for a store in terms of parking and land. The fact that there are two within easy transit access (subway / shuttle bus) from downtown means trips are fairly easy to make for smaller stuff, and big furniture purchases can still be done with a car share or something.

    There is of course also the market size required for one, generally 1 million people a store. Sheppard and The Queensway locations cover Toronto fairly well.
     
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  8. NBGtect

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    Thought for sure that IKEA has major expansion plans including the new mini stores with 100 of their top-selling items, as well as being a place to pick up online orders. Downtown Toronto would be a perfect place for this type of smaller IKEA. I see people all the time on the subway with flat-packed furniture items.
     
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  9. Edward Skira

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    Put an IKEA downtown and see how many downtowners continue to trek to North York.
     
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    Precisely. I'm a downtowner and I avoid the suburbs as much as possible.
     
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  11. taal

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    An IKEA downtown would work amazingly well; You'd be surprised how many "small" items they sell; And delivery is a perfectly valid alternative; Actually if I were them I would put a FULL scale store less the warehouse downtown .. they recently added a second warehouse only location near 404 / Cummer / Steels to offset the warehouse in their North York store. Both stores would do very well.b
     
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  12. Jacob Laponointe

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    I fear if an Ikea were to open downtown, the little ridership that does exist on the Sheppard line would decrease even more :p. Joking aside, I do agree with taal, an Ikea would do incredibly well downtown, but perhaps have large items (e.g. beds, tables, large chests of drawers, etc) as delivery only and send it from North York if someone wanted it delivered. I personally have taken quite a bit of furniture from the North York store to my condo near Yonge and Queen on the subway, but my bed and chest of drawers was delivered.

    Back on topic, MEC will probably do quite well on this site and it'll be great to get rid of this parking lot.
     
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  13. taal

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    Why is MEC moving again ? Are they being kicked out of their current site for Allied's development ? I think that's what it is; Otherwise little incentive I don't think this store will be any larger.
     
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    They're selling the King Street site. There's all the incentive they need to move!

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    Ah that'd explain it ;) Thanks!
     
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