Toronto Broadview Hotel | 28.65m | 7s | Streetcar | ERA Architects

[adma]

Given the murmurs, if they didn't throw them out now, there's a good risk they'd be buried in rubble--better to perform emergency repairs when there's no tenants to worry about...

Gladstone and Drake, by comparison, were at no risk of collapse.

 

[interchange42]

As the building is considered a hotel and not a rental apartment building, I take it the owner is exempt from having to provide rental replacement units. Happy to take correction on that if I am wrong.

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[dowlingm]

With the 501/2/3/4 passing through this intersection, and a possible future line south on Broadview to pass near the First Gulf lands and through the rail embankment, one would hope to see a revamped NW corner anchor some addition transformation here. The TTC streetcar loop which is supposedly to be built on the nearby parking lot might be a little off putting due wheel squeal.

 

[ksun]

Throwing out? Or just merely giving tenants legal notice to find other accommodations AND helping them to do so?

There's nothing evil here. It's all good. I'd be more worried about people living here with these conditions (and lack of concern) as it exists today.

No one really cared about the tenants until yesterday...

Can't agree more.
The new owner did nothing wrong. Like AoD said, it is not the private sector's business to take care of the poor.

 

[AlvinofDiaspar]

Like AoD said, it is not the private sector's business to take care of the poor.

Not quite as you put it - private sector has a certain degree of obligation indirectly through taxes and such. Just saying that requiring a business to accommodate the current tenants might be counterproductive, especially in a small project like this one.

AoD

 

[NBGtect]

Spent the last few days thinking about this and we still can't figure out how on earth this project could ever look like The Drake Hotel East?

We did a little research! Wouldn't a more appropriate comparison be The Gladstone Hotel on Queen St West? We can see major comparisons there. In order to look like The Drake, there would be massive changes in design, which we find would be totally unnecessary and costly. They just need to renovate and revitalize this building to its former glory, not totally change it's appearance.

Just our thoughts. I know that's not popular given The Drake's popularity and Toronto's history of destroying its past. But it may just be a lot easier to accept this structure's beauty as it exists.

 

[bilked]

With the 501/2/3/4 passing through this intersection, and a possible future line south on Broadview to pass near the First Gulf lands and through the rail embankment, one would hope to see a revamped NW corner anchor some addition transformation here. The TTC streetcar loop which is supposedly to be built on the nearby parking lot might be a little off putting due wheel squeal.

Is this TTC streetcar loop actually going in here though? I heard Paula Fletcher was doing everything she could to prevent this from happening.

 

[ksun]

Spent the last few days thinking about this and we still can't figure out how on earth this project could ever look like The Drake Hotel East?

In order to look like The Drake, there would be massive changes in design, which we find would be totally unnecessary and costly.

We are talking about Drake hotel Toronto, right? It is not that big or magnificant at all.
Drake Chicago is a different scale though.

 

[adHominem]

Spent the last few days thinking about this and we still can't figure out how on earth this project could ever look like The Drake Hotel East?

We did a little research! Wouldn't a more appropriate comparison be The Gladstone Hotel on Queen St West? We can see major comparisons there. In order to look like The Drake, there would be massive changes in design, which we find would be totally unnecessary and costly. They just need to renovate and revitalize this building to its former glory, not totally change it's appearance.

Just our thoughts. I know that's not popular given The Drake's popularity and Toronto's history of destroying its past. But it may just be a lot easier to accept this structure's beauty as it exists.

I don't think anyone's talking about making it look like the Drake, but rather changing the use of the building to a use similar to the Drake (boutique hotel + music venue + high-design bar/restaurant). Many people have pointed out that the Gladstone is a more apt comparison, though again the current use of the Gladstone is similar to the Drake, though with more of an emphasis on the arts and less on serving expensive cocktails and PBR to the expensive-asymmetrical-haircut crowd.

 

[Ramako]

I don't think anyone's talking about making it look like the Drake, but rather changing the use of the building to a use similar to the Drake (boutique hotel + music venue + high-design bar/restaurant). Many people have pointed out that the Gladstone is a more apt comparison, though again the current use of the Gladstone is similar to the Drake, though with more of an emphasis on the arts and less on serving expensive cocktails and PBR to the expensive-asymmetrical-haircut crowd.

Even more than the use in and of itself, I think the comparison to the Drake is about the potential that the re-use of this building has to be a catalyst for the neighbourhood generally. The Drake helped make West Queen West the destination that it is today, and this venue has the potential to have a similar effect on the east side.

 

[argus]

Would that mean Jilly's status as a peeler bar could be upgraded in the new incarnation as well - possibly becoming a Gentlemen's club featuring authentic hand-crafted artisanal apparel removal by way or organic and holistic dance charming?

 

[maestro]

Even more than the use in and of itself, I think the comparison to the Drake is about the potential that the re-use of this building has to be a catalyst for the neighbourhood generally. The Drake helped make West Queen West the destination that it is today, and this venue has the potential to have a similar effect on the east side.

Jilly's/Broadview Hotel is one of the last hold outs from completing the neighbourhood's gentrification.

 

[NBGtect]

Ya, there's nothing wrong with Riverside as it exists today. Jillys was the only thing that needed to go. And maybe the Toyoto dealership.

 

[Automation Gallery]

What's next for the residents of the Broadview Hotel?
Leslieville neighbourhood is 'pushing out' people who live at historic hote

Few of the 40 residents living in the Broadview Hotel above Jilly's know what will happen to them next.

Jilly's, long the most notorious tenant of the historic hotel, has been given 60 days to vacate the premises.

CBC Radio has learned that Streetcar Developments, the new owner of the iconic building at the corner of Queen St. E. and Broadview, has not imposed the same time frame on the tenants of the hotel.

The Broadview Hotel, more flophouse than hotel, has long provided a roof over the heads of people living just one step away from homelessness.

The current residents include a couple of single parents with young children, but most of the residents are single men, many of whom stay at the hotel for anywhere from a few weeks to a few years.
More.....http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/what-s-next-for-the-residents-of-the-broadview-hotel-1.2645199

 

[greenleaf]

Intention to Designate under Part IV, Section 29 of the Ontario Heritage Act - 704 Queen Street East (entrance address 106 Broadview Avenue):

"This report recommends that City Council state its intention to designate the property at 704 Queen Street East, entrance address 106 Broadview Avenue, (Dingman's Hall) under Part IV, Section 29 of the Ontario Heritage Act for its cultural heritage value. Located at the north-west corner of Queen Street East and Broadview Avenue, Dingman's Hall (now known as Jilly's and the New Broadview Hotel) is a four storey building completed in 1891-2. The property was listed on the City of Toronto Inventory of Heritage Properties in 1975.

Following research and evaluation, staff have determined that the property at 704 Queen Street East meets Ontario Regulation 9/06, the provincial criteria prescribed for municipal designation under the Ontario Heritage Act. The designation of the property would identify the property's heritage values and attributes and enable City Council to control alterations to the site, enforce heritage property standards and maintenance, and refuse demolition."