Toronto 77 Charles West | 65.83m | 16s | Aspen Ridge | HOK

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Wait--HOK is credited for 77 Charles?!? I didn't know their Toronto office did anything other than big institutional/health-care commissions...
 
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I believe their Toronto office (HOK/Urbana - right?) also designed the Harbourview Estates buildings at CityPlace.

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Ding ding! Actually I believe they only did HVE 1 and 2 - 3 is by Page + Steele, if I remember correctly. (PS: Maybe not).

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HVE 1 & 2 are indeed HOK Canada condos, as is 77 Charles W. I used to work for them on the Cityplace stuff and have some friends who are at work on 77 Charles right now.

HOK does mainly do institutional and commercial work in Canada, but they do tons of residential work in the Middle East.

Regarding the renderings flying around the internet, noone seems to know where those came from. There are plenty of other renderings (much better ones) hanging in the office, but it's up to the client's discretion to decide what is released to the public.

Apparently they thought a charcoal storyboard still and a cartoonish winter wonderland oil painting were the way to go. who knows why.
 
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I got a flyer recently showing the southern part of the building. It's actually curved, ala the Tridel condo on Belair.
 
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There is a small item about it in today's National Post with a few quotes from Weymouth, who is in town.
 
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Architect aims for 'jewel project' on Charles
First Canadian job for Louvre Design Boss

Nicole Girardin
National Post

Wednesday, March 07, 2007

Yann Weymouth, who acted as the chief design architect for I.M. Pei on the Louvre Pyramid in Paris, is set to make his mark on Toronto.

Mr. Weymouth's first Canadian project, for the international Hellmuth, Obata & Kassabaul (HOK) design firm, involves demolishing the current home of the Lycee Francaise at 77 Charles St. and replacing it with a 22- storey building.

The first four floors, in granite, will house the Promotion of Education and Values Society and Kintore College, a private Catholic school, plus housing for 18 women, aged 20 to 30. Above will be 18 stories of luxury condominium suites.

"We're at the edge between the taller, more dense, more urban part of the city and the area of Queen's Park and the University of Toronto, that's much lower, gentler and very clean," Mr. Weymouth said in an interview at the Gardiner Museum of Ceramic Art, which is around the corner from the site.

"These are two good things in the city and we need both."

No one at the Lycee Francaise, a private school partly funded by the government of France, would comment on where the school will move. A note on the school's Web site promises that the school will remain at its "current address" for the 2007-08 school year.

The developer, Aspen Ridge Homes of Toronto, hopes to break ground in late 2007 or early 2008, with occupancy slated for late 2009.

Mr. Weymouth said yesterday that in designing the new building, he tried to save architectural features unique to the area.

"The base of the building is the same scale, the same scale of detail. But then the tower, which is very different in vocabulary, it's not made of stone. It's made of glass, metal and some stone trim. That's above and floating down and then dives down to meet the entrance on Charles Street."

The design will use natural Canadian materials in its base.

"The base is two stones. One is called Algonquin. It's a limestone, it's a local limestone, it's a Canadian limestone. The second one is a granite, which is called Prairie Green, which again is Canadian granite," Mr. Weymouth said.

Mr. Weymouth also hopes the building will score high under Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design (LEED) ratings system.

The LEED rating system measures how green a building actually is according to five categories -- sustainable site development, water savings, energy efficiency, materials selection and indoor environmental quality.

A project can be awarded either certified, silver, gold or platinum status, depending on how high the project scores. A certified project needs 26 points whereas a platinum project requires 52 points.

"We're aiming for silver certification -- but there's no guarantee," Mr. Weymouth said. "This is a jewel project. It's worthwhile to push all of the boundaries that we can to make it as good as we can possibly make it."
 
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Thanks! The amount of detail put into the project sounds exciting.

"We're at the edge between the taller, more dense, more urban part of the city and the area of Queen's Park and the University of Toronto, that's much lower, gentler and very clean," Mr. Weymouth said in an interview at the Gardiner Museum of Ceramic Art, which is around the corner from the site.

"These are two good things in the city and we need both."

If only more projects exhibit this kind of thoughtfulness to context...

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Worth noting is that the Trish Romance Winter Wonderland scene on page 2 of this thread shows a building of 17 floors total, and nothing granitey or limestoney at all, just glasssssssssssssssy.

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There is "stoney" cladding on the podium, on the left side of the pic posted in the thread.

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Perhaps four floors for the Institute for the Promotion of Health and Beauty, and the housing for the Vestal Virgins, will be below grade?
 
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Other details:

50 units ranging in price from $800,000 to $8 million.

Brick and stone paving will be used on all walking surfaces of the landscaped front court. Canadian Limeston will be used extensively for the College in the podium.

Polished Canadian granite will be used in the facade to seperate the floors in the residential portion of the building.

Florida Architect Yann Weymouth (HOK) has worked on numerous museums and this will be his first residential building.

Another rendering I have (hard copy - sorry nothing to upload on UT) depicts a curved surface facing Queen's Park.
 
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From the Globe, by JBM:

POSTED ON: 16/03/07
New tower at 77 Charles may provide a lesson in developing near the university

JOHN BENTLEY MAYS

Over a broader swatch of inner Hogtown than it officially occupies, the University of Toronto sets the architectural tone: dignified and serious in style, mid-rise in height, red brick and grey stone in material palette. Try to put up a really tall glass condominium tower anywhere along the fringe of the St. George campus, and you invite the wrath of just about everybody, from local citizens and the university itself right down to city hall.

Spirited defence of the university's built legacy is a good thing. Keeping the margins of the campus forever free from high-density development, on the other hand, is probably as undesirable as it is impossible. The U of T campus abuts some of the most valuable residential and commercial real estate in Canada. Instead of trying to prohibit development along this margin, we should be thinking about how best the architectural transition between our improbably rural university and the big city all around it can be managed for the benefit of all.

For a suggestive example of the kind of sensible passage I have in mind, take the proposed redevelopment of 77 Charles St. West at St. Thomas Street. It's an interesting location, by the way: Little Charles Street, between Queens Park and Bay Street, lies along the northern frontier of the university, the edge where the discreet, ivy-covered masonry meets the gleam of the decidedly middle-brow (or worse) architecture and high-end shopping and living along Bloor Street West.

Given the transitional condition of Charles Street, the work designed to go into this sensitive spot — by Yann Weymouth, vice-president of the international architectural firm HOK — is suitably mixed. Mr. Weymouth's 16-storey structure is actually two separate buildings, the taller atop the shorter, each with its own entrance and distinct purpose.

Below is the three-storey home of Kintore College, a dormitory and educational centre for about 20 university women that is loosely affiliated with Opus Dei, the international Roman Catholic renewal movement. The atmosphere of the college is to be studious and pious; mass will be celebrated each day, and instruction in Catholic faith and practice will be offered to the university community.

To link this building to the architectural traditions of the university, Mr. Weymouth has chosen elements from the tool-kit of collegiate style: cladding of brick and limestone, windows and doors framed in oak, the overall profile of a modest box. The mid-sized residence, with the pedestrian scale of its façade and details, will probably not seem out of place in the streetscape of Charles West, which also hosts Victoria University's splendid neo-Gothic Burwash Hall, graceful Isabel Bader Theatre, and Hariri Pontarini's handsome Mackenzie Institute.

While the Kintore College structure is reminiscent of university edifices, the 13-storey building on top is an evocation of bright lights and luxurious style. The curtain wall of the condominium plinth is an airy composition of large, lightly tinted green glass panes, accented by green Canadian granite spandrels. The apartments behind this glistening surface are large: 1,100 square feet to 4,500 square feet, with a penthouse of 6,000 square feet. The prices being charged by Aspen Ridge Homes, the developer of the project, are also large, though they are not especially surprising in this stylish location: $780,000 for the smallest unit, up to $5.9-million for 4,500 square feet. (So far, the penthouse has not been given a price tag.) There will be four levels of residents' parking below grade.

The two parts of this project have been blended by drawing the glass curtain wall of the condominium tower over the college residence, down to the ground. The model of the project, which was unveiled last week at a HOK reception, suggests that the melding of two programs and two styles will be smoother than I might have expected from renderings. The connection between the two geometries of the tower's structure — right angles and rectangular forms toward Bloor Street, curves around back, toward the university precinct — seems to work, as well. The layout of the suites, especially the large ones along the façade looking out to the south and west, is ample and comfortable.

The architecture of 77 Charles could surely be far more vivacious, more daring than it is. The profile is somewhat stumpy, as though the building had been whittled down from a considerably greater height. Be that as it may, the tower will likely be a formal success in its urban context, where scales and textures change, as do building uses. It makes a certain sense to have a hybrid in this spot: a tall building that's not really tall, and a luxury condo stack married — this must be a Toronto first — to an outpost of avant-garde Catholicism.

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Well, surely the archest description of a big stack that we've, um, witnessed in a while.
 

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