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561 Sherbourne 
561 Sherbourne St, Toronto
Developer: Medallion Corporation

561 Sherbourne | 128m | 43s | Medallion | P + S / IBI

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  1. Peepers

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    Rezoning application on the whole of the lands for the redevelopment of existing one storey commercial component with same, additional commercial street frontage development along Sherbourne Street, and the addition of an 38-storey apartment building with 408 additional units including street front townhouse units along Bleecker Street. Podium over Earl Street and eleven (11) rental units to be demolished.

    In this uncertain economy,you might start seeing a lot more new rental units being built and hitting the market.

    http://www.movesmartly.com/2009/02/toronto-rental-market-surges-.html
     
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  3. UserNameToronto

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    Yup, I've always thought that St. Jamestown needed more hi-rise rentals. *shudder*
     
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    Wow, they're really gonna cram it in there. I guess the tower would have to go over the No Frills or immediately to the east of it. It's gonna be cockroach heaven. (Even more than it already is)...

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    Last I read, St. James Town was the highest density residential area in North America. Maybe they're trying for the highest density in the World.
     
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    They would have a very long way to go before they hit that level.
     
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    yeah parts of NYC would easily take Jamestown for most dense residential area.
     
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    I know that if you look at cities as a whole, both New York and San Francisco are ahead of TO in population density. If you expand to international there is a long list of cities in south and southeast Asia that blows us away. Trying to compare individual residential developments would be difficult unless someone has a specific link to such info...
     
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    You got me thinking Redroom, so I did some quick research. The chart below is from the accompanying link and is from Jan 2007. The first # is the population of the city, the second # is the land area and the third # is the population per square kilometre. Toronto is #97, San Fran #104 and New York #114. Mumbai is #1 with 29,650 people per square kilometre. St. James Town has an area of 1/4 of a square kilometre with a population of about 20,000 people. That translates into 80,000 people per square kilometre!




    http://http://www.citymayors.com/statistics/largest-cities-density-125.html


    Largest cities in the world ranked by population density (1 to 125)
    Rank City / Urban area Country Population Land area
    (in sqKm)
    Density
    (people per sqKm)

    1 Mumbai India 14,350,000 484 29,650
    2 Kolkata India 12,700,000 531 23,900
    3 Karachi Pakistan 9,800,000 518 18,900
    4 Lagos Nigeria 13,400,000 738 18,150
    5 Shenzhen China 8,000,000 466 17,150
    6 Seoul/Incheon South Korea 17,500,000 1,049 16,700
    7 Taipei Taiwan 5,700,000 376 15,200
    8 Chennai India 5,950,000 414 14,350
    9 Bogota Colombia 7,000,000 518 13,500
    10 Shanghai China 10,000,000 746 13,400
    11 Lima Peru 7,000,000 596 11,750
    12 Beijing China 8,614,000 748 11,500
    13 Delhi India 14,300,000 1,295 11,050
    14 Kinshasa Congo 5,000,000 469 10,650
    15 Manila Philippines 14,750,000 1,399 10,550
    16 Tehran Iran 7,250,000 686 10,550
    17 Jakarta Indonesia 14,250,000 1,360 10,500
    18 Tianjin China 4,750,000 453 10,500
    19 Bangalore India 5,400,000 534 10,100
    20 Ho Chi Minh City Vietnam 4,900,000 518 9,450
    21 Cairo Egypt 12,200,000 1,295 9,400
    22 Baghdad Iraq 5,500,000 596 9,250
    23 Shenyang China 4,200,000 453 9,250
    24 Hyderabad India 5,300,000 583 9,100
    25 Sao Paulo Brazil 17,700,000 1,968 9,000
    26 St Petersburg Russia 5,300,000 622 8,550
    27 Mexico City Mexico 17,400,000 2,072 8,400
    28 Santiago Chile 5,425,000 648 8,400
    29 Singapore Singapore 4,000,000 479 8,350
    30 Lahore Pakistan 5,100,000 622 8,200
    31 Recife Brazil 3,025,000 376 8,050
    32 Istanbul Turkey 9,000,000 1,166 7,700
    33 Dalian China 2,750,000 389 7,100
    34 Khartoum Sudan 4,000,000 583 6,850
    35 Rio de Janeiro Brazil 10,800,000 1,580 6,850
    36 Monterey Mexico 3,200,000 479 6,700
    37 Bangkok Thailand 6,500,000 1,010 6,450
    38 Osaka/Kobe/Kyoto Japan 16,425,000 2,564 6,400
    39 Guadalajara Mexico 3,500,000 596 5,900
    40 Athens Greece 3,685,000 684 5,400
    41 Ankara Turkey 3,100,000 583 5,300
    42 Madrid Spain 4,900,000 945 5,200
    43 London UK 8,278,000 1,623 5,100
    44 Tel Aviv Israel 2,300,000 453 5,050
    45 Sapporo Japan 2,075,000 414 5,000
    46 Buenos Aires Argentina 11,200,000 2,266 4,950
    47 Moscow Russia 10,500,000 2,150 4,900
    48 Barcelona Spain 3,900,000 803 4,850
    49 Porto Alegre Brazil 2,800,000 583 4,800
    50 Tokyo/Yokohama Japan 33,200,000 6,993 4,750
    51 Belo Horizonte Brazil 4,000,000 868 4,600
    52 Fortaleza Brazil 2,650,000 583 4,550
    53 Warsaw Poland 2,000,000 466 4,300
    54 Tashkent Uzbekistan 2,200,000 531 4,150
    55 Naples Italy 2,400,000 583 4,100
    56 Katowice Poland 2,200,000 544 4,050
    57 Leeds/Bradford UK 1,499,000 370 4,050
    58 Manchester UK 2,245,000 558 4,000
    59 CapeTown South Africa 2,700,000 686 3,950
    60 Fukuoka Japan 2,150,000 544 3,950
    61 Taichung Taiwan 2,000,000 510 3,900
    62 Baku/Sumqayit Azerbaijan 2,100,000 544 3,850
    63 Curitiba Brazil 2,500,000 648 3,850
    64 Birmingham UK 2,284,000 600 3,800
    65 Berlin Germany 3,675,000 984 3,750
    66 Riyadh Saudi Arabia 4,000,000 1,101 3,650
    67 Campinas Brazil 1,750,000 492 3,550
    68 Jeddah Saudi Arabia 2,750,000 777 3,550
    69 Paris France 9,645,000 2,723 3,550
    70 Durban South Africa 2,900,000 829 3,500
    71 Vienna Austria 1,550,000 453 3,400
    72 Accra Ghana 1,500,000 453 3,300
    73 Glasgow UK 1,200,000 368 3,250
    74 Nagoya Japan 9,000,000 2,875 3,150
    75 Quito Ecuador 1,500,000 479 3,150
    76 Donetsk Ukraine 1,400,000 451 3,100
    77 Goiania Brazil 1,475,000 479 3,100
    78 Munich Germany 1,600,000 518 3,100
    79 Stuttgart Germany 1,250,000 414 3,000
    80 Dublin Ireland 1,075,000 365 2,950
    81 Kuwait Kuwait 1,600,000 544 2,950
    82 Nizhni Novgorod Russia 1,500,000 505 2,950
    83 Rome Italy 2,500,000 842 2,950
    84 Phnom Phen Cambodia 1,500,000 518 2,900
    85 Beirut Lebanon 1,800,000 648 2,800
    86 Brasilia Brazil 1,625,000 583 2,800
    87 Essen/Düsseldorf Germany 7,350,000 2,642 2,800
    88 Lumumbashi Congo 1,200,000 427 2,800
    89 Kuala Lumpur Malaysia 4,400,000 1,606 2,750
    90 Los Angeles USA 11,789,000 4,320 2,750
    91 Milan Italy 4,250,000 1,554 2,750
    92 Pretoria South Africa 1,850,000 673 2,750
    93 Stockholm Sweden 1,400,000 518 2,700
    94 Turin Italy 1,350,000 500 2,700
    95 Dubai UAE 1,900,000 712 2,650
    96 Porto Portugal 1,035,000 389 2,650
    97 Toronto Canada 4,367,000 1,655 2,650
    98 Budapest Hungary 1,800,000 702 2,550
    99 Lisbon Portugal 2,250,000 881 2,550
    100 Johannesburg/East Rand South Africa 6,000,000 2,396 2,500
    101 Rotterdam Netherlands 1,325,000 531 2,500
    102 Harare Zimbabwe 1,750,000 712 2,450
    103 Cologne/Bonn Germany 1,960,000 816 2,400
    104 San Francisco/Oakland USA 3,229,000 1,365 2,350
    105 Frankfurt Germany 2,260,000 984 2,300
    106 Hamburg Germany 1,925,000 829 2,300
    107 San Jose USA 1,538,000 674 2,300
    108 Arabia Saudi 1,525,000 673 2,250
    109 Brussels Belgium 1,570,000 712 2,200
    110 Lille France 1,050,000 474 2,200
    111 Helsinki Finland 1,000,000 479 2,100
    112 Port Elizabeth South Africa 900,000 427 2,100
    113 Sydney Australia 3,502,000 1,687 2,100
    114 New York USA 17,800,000 8,683 2,050
    115 Auckland New Zealand 1,050,000 531 2,000
    116 New Orleans USA 1,009,000 512 1,950
    117 Copenhagen Denmark 1,525,000 816 1,850
    118 Montreal. Canada 3,216,000 1,740 1,850
    119 Honolulu USA 718,000 399 1,800
    120 Las Vegas USA 1,314,000 741 1,750
    121 Miami USA 4,919,000 2,891 1,700
    122 Ottawa/Hull Canada 828,000 490 1,700
    123 Vancouver Canada 1,830,000 1,120 1,650
    124 Antwerp Belgium 915,000 596 1,550
    125 Denver USA 1,985,000 1,292 1,550
     
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    We're way off topic, but why is Hong Kong not on that list?
     
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    What a crazy proposal! The density for this property would be insane. Imagine other St. Jamestown owners following suit by intensifying their parking lots.
     
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    ^I hope it happens. Looking at that google earth shot you can see the area could easily be 4X as dense.
     
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    Concerning androiduk's list, I wonder what exactly those "land areas" correspond to?
     
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    75% of HK's land area is actually wilderness, countryside or mountains, and urban development is concentrated into only a few major pockets/corridors, so if you look at the average pop density of the entire "city" it's not that high. [/OT]
     
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    The same is true of this city. It is much easy to get a realistic measure of density at the neighbourhood or district level then city wide. Some cities like Calgary, Hamilton, Halifax, Ottawa have immense rural areas or parks inside city limits that severely skew the reading. When it comes to stats like density, the author can play with the number to get virtually any result they wish.
     
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