isaidso
Senior Member
^^ Thank you for your support. It gets very frustrating in these forums sometimes.
Where does it say that I think the economics of China and Toronto are the same? NO WHERE! Lets recount what has actually been said here rather than what some people think is being said:
First, all I've done is state the fact that a sub 250 metre building is going to look like a stump next to a 553 metre building, and someone says I'm crazy. Crazy? I've mentioned nothing about economics, practicality, context, etc. only a very very basic statement about the scale in that area. I'm crazy for pointing that out? This is beyond absurd.
Then, I'm told that I'm living in the wrong century and galaxy. First of all, comments like that belong in juvenile detention school, not here. In producing that list, I'm once again not making any argument about economics, context, practicality, etc. but only making the point that taller buildings aren't science fiction fantasies, but realities of the modern world; nothing more, nothing less. People need to read what's written and stop making assumptions about what they think people are trying to say.
I'm very much aware of the economics of Toronto, Canada, China, and most of the industrialized world. I've studied it for 2 decades and lived all over the world. I'm under no illusions about what Toronto will, or will not build. I'm also very much aware of the dominant established culture in Toronto as it pertains to design aesthetics, urban planning, and architecture.
People really need to not let their noses get so out of joint if anyone dares point out that there are other ways of doing things. There isn't just one right way. There seems to be a knee jerk insulting and condescending tone prevalent to any views that don't conform to accepted approaches.
I have a number of close friends in the urban planning/architecture/development field and they all say the same thing. Rigid conservatism isn't as prevalent in Toronto as it used to be, but it's still advisable to keep your mouth shut. You'll just get insulted, talked down to, lose a promotion, and end up covered in sh*t.
Disappointed for a long time? Why are you assuming that I'm blind to the realities of Toronto and ignorant of the culture here? If anything, I have a healthy perspective of both the realities here, and overseas. I'm only going to be disappointed in Toronto, if I was living in that other galaxy that 'maestro' so rudely told me I was living in.
Where does it say that I think the economics of China and Toronto are the same? NO WHERE! Lets recount what has actually been said here rather than what some people think is being said:
First, all I've done is state the fact that a sub 250 metre building is going to look like a stump next to a 553 metre building, and someone says I'm crazy. Crazy? I've mentioned nothing about economics, practicality, context, etc. only a very very basic statement about the scale in that area. I'm crazy for pointing that out? This is beyond absurd.
Then, I'm told that I'm living in the wrong century and galaxy. First of all, comments like that belong in juvenile detention school, not here. In producing that list, I'm once again not making any argument about economics, context, practicality, etc. but only making the point that taller buildings aren't science fiction fantasies, but realities of the modern world; nothing more, nothing less. People need to read what's written and stop making assumptions about what they think people are trying to say.
I'm very much aware of the economics of Toronto, Canada, China, and most of the industrialized world. I've studied it for 2 decades and lived all over the world. I'm under no illusions about what Toronto will, or will not build. I'm also very much aware of the dominant established culture in Toronto as it pertains to design aesthetics, urban planning, and architecture.
People really need to not let their noses get so out of joint if anyone dares point out that there are other ways of doing things. There isn't just one right way. There seems to be a knee jerk insulting and condescending tone prevalent to any views that don't conform to accepted approaches.
I have a number of close friends in the urban planning/architecture/development field and they all say the same thing. Rigid conservatism isn't as prevalent in Toronto as it used to be, but it's still advisable to keep your mouth shut. You'll just get insulted, talked down to, lose a promotion, and end up covered in sh*t.
Disappointed for a long time? Why are you assuming that I'm blind to the realities of Toronto and ignorant of the culture here? If anything, I have a healthy perspective of both the realities here, and overseas. I'm only going to be disappointed in Toronto, if I was living in that other galaxy that 'maestro' so rudely told me I was living in.
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