Toronto Queens Quay & Water's Edge Revitalization | ?m | ?s | Waterfront Toronto

[Tuscani01]

I don't get "stay to the left of this sign" from the European sign at all... Like PinkLucy, all I see is an arrow pointing at something.

This on the other hand, would tell me to keep left:

 

[salsa]

The North American one says... there's a median here. You need to swerve a bit to avoid hitting it.

To me it says "avoid torpedo, swerve left"

 

[the lemur]

Because the white arrow is pointing downwards, it makes me think there's something I should be looking for at ground level. Perhaps if the arrow was pointing straight to the left?

The North American one is typically mounted up on a pole near the end of the obstruction (median, streetcar platform, etc.), whereas the UK/Europe version is usually on a short post or illuminated column on a traffic island, at approximately driver's eye height, pointing at the lane to be taken:

https://goo.gl/maps/kgXzl

https://goo.gl/maps/xilUu

 

[the lemur]

I don't get "stay to the left of this sign" from the European sign at all... Like PinkLucy, all I see is an arrow pointing at something.

This on the other hand, would tell me to keep left:

That actually looks like 'turn left' to me here, aside from the text.

 

[SunriseChampion]

Honestly....even in the absence of any signs, the streetcar ROW is clearly a streetcar ROW. There is no ultimate sign to guide people who just shouldn't be driving. Brain mulfunctioning cannot be fixed with signs, unfortunately.

 

[wopchop]

They could solve this problem instantly by painting the ROW. Even if they only painted it near intersections.

 

[EastYorkTTCFan]

They could solve this problem instantly by painting the ROW. Even if they only painted it near intersections.

I wonder who should be asked about that the TTC or Waterfront Toronto?

 

[Tuscani01]

I wonder who should be asked about that the TTC or Waterfront Toronto?

I've already brought it up in my feedback to Waterfront Toronto on Queens Quay. I'm sure others would have too.

 

[Armour]

Paint or grass won't be a useful visual reminder in the winter, though.

 

[SunriseChampion]

What, the raised curbs and overhead wires aren't enough of a visual cue for people?

 

[PinkLucy]

Apparently not. I had someone tell me that the problem is that you can't tell where anyone is supposed to be, that it is all the same level and everything looks the same, whether you are on foot, on a bike, or in a car.

 

[pstogios]

What, the raised curbs and overhead wires aren't enough of a visual cue for people?

Isn't it obvious that it is not? That's why we are having this discussion.

 

[AlvinofDiaspar]

Another case of stupid got to stupid:

http://t.thestar.com/#/article/news...ens-quay.html?referrer=http://t.co/JgAofBBiEy

The reporting is pathetic though - this sort of thing had happened even before the QQ redo.

AoD

 

[PinkLucy]

^^ Yup, and people have been driving on the streetcar ROW for years too.

 

[the lemur]

Isn't it obvious that it is not? That's why we are having this discussion.

The raised curbs, the overhead wires AND the following signs are not enough?

What else can we add?