photo radar in 2006?

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  1. brian1969

    brian1969 Banned

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    I am writing to ask if anybody can help me out with a bit of Ontario highway history.

    I live overseas now and will probably get a car. This has me hitting BC and Ontario government websites to request my driver's record. One thing puzzles me: web searches reveal that in the 1990s Ontario had photo radar for only a few months but not since. This contradicts my experience so may be somebody in this forum can enlighten me.

    I moved from BC, where I had a perfect driving record, to Ontario in 2004. Then in 2006 I moved from Pickering to Toronto. Since I was within a short walk of my office downtown, I sold my car. My mistake was not knowing that in Ontario, the plates go with the driver. The buyer lived in the Brampton area and his lender helped me with the transaction but neither of them told me about keeping the plates to myself. Towards the end of 2006 I was surprised to receive a letter from an Ontario ministry fining me about $100 for a speeding vehicle with the license plates I used to have. The incident was somewhere in the Toronto area on one of the highways. I reluctantly paid the fine even though I was not the driver. I contacted the buyer and asked him to stop using my plates and to repay me the amount of the fine.

    My question is this: if Ontario did not have photo radar since the mid-1990s, then why was I fined? Was there a speed enforcement system in effect in 2006, that was not photo radar, per se, but essentially the same minus the photo? I cannot remember if the letter contained a copy of the photograph. My second question is whether this will show up on my Ontario driving record?
     
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  2. Electrify

    Electrify Senior Member

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    Someone may be able to answer the question as to what exactly happened (my understanding is that photo radar is illegal in Ontario, and even those signs which tell you your speed don't record your license and ticket you), but you'll be happy to know that this will not go on your record because they cannot prove that you were the one driving at the time.
     
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  3. TOareaFan

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    How well do you know the person that you sold your car to? Any chance he is using more than your old plates? Your identity?

    We do not have photo radar in Ontario and any violation of the highway traffic act is a ticket given to you by an officer, in person. How he could get a ticket in your name is beyond me unless he said/showed he was you?

    EDIT: I guess the excpetion could be those red light cameras....not sure how they work as I don't run reds! I believe they ticket by mail? Is the violation for running a red?
     
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    Photo radar was eliminated with the election of Mike Harris in 1995.

    Since the fine amount was so low, I also think it was a red light camera.
     
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  5. W. K. Lis

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    Meanwhile.... back in September of 2015...

    NYC Has Installed All 140 School Zone Speed Cameras Allowed by Albany

    From this link:

     
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  6. crs1026

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    Personally, I would be happy to see photo radar return, although I would operate it very differently so that it deters unsafe driving rather than a revenue program:

    - Allow the fined individual to direct their fine to a registered charity (sorry, no tax receipt) so the program can't be said to be a tax grab
    - Waive the fine, if the actual driver comes forward and signs for the demerit points, with immediate notification to their insurance company
    - No unmarked vans, use fixed installations every 3-5 miles down the highway
    - Set the threshold for an infraction higher, say 125 kph - so that it's a deterrent to irresponsible driving rather than a nitpick against people who are only a few kms over the limit

    - Paul
     
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  7. W. K. Lis

    W. K. Lis Senior Member

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    I would rather have them use a percentage of the speed over the limit. 20 km's over in a 40 km/h zone is more of a problem than 20 km's over in a 100 km/h zone.
     
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  8. gabe

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    I don't have problem with photo radar. I would like to see some kind of detector used to catch drivers using their phones. So many idiots on our roads are still texting behind the wheel.
     
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  9. Panontario

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    What I would like to see is a mandatory tough exam every 5-10 years to eliminate bad drivers. Speeding does not equal bad or dangerous driver. People who don't pay attention, who drive below the speed of traffic, who make sudden dangerous maneuvers are the real danger on our streets. The topic on speeding has been discussed to death, maybe we should get back on topic asked by OP.
     
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