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Toronto Crosstown LRT | ?m | ?s | Metrolinx | Arcadis

TheTigerMaster said:
But seriously, why is Metrolinx heating GO train stations, but not LRT stations that'll see multiple times more usage than the busiest GO Transit line.
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The only parts of Go train stations heated are the ticket agents both and the washrooms inside of that building They also have a couple of shelters with heaters in the ceiling at each station. The heating going into the ground has nothing to do with passenger comfort other then making it so snow and Ice doesn't form on the ground at them and they don't have to use road salt on them to do that.

Heating subway platforms is a completely different animal altogether because the ends of the tunnel are open and have exhaust ventilation in them for various reason they can't heat the platforms even if they put doors in as it's too high of a cost to maintain heating in them do to the open nature of the tunnels. I don't think there is a transit system anywhere in the world that heats or cools there subway platforms because of how much it would cost in wasted energy to do it.
 
EastYorkTTCFan said:
Heating subway platforms is a completely different animal altogether because the ends of the tunnel are open and have exhaust ventilation in them for various reason they can't heat the platforms even if they put doors in as it's too high of a cost to maintain heating in them do to the open nature of the tunnels. I don't think there is a transit system anywhere in the world that heats or cools there subway platforms because of how much it would cost in wasted energy to do it.
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I think TigerMaster is talking about surface LRT stations, not underground ones.
 
EastYorkTTCFan said:
The only parts of Go train stations heated are the ticket agents both and the washrooms inside of that building They also have a couple of shelters with heaters in the ceiling at each station. The heating going into the ground has nothing to do with passenger comfort other then making it so snow and Ice doesn't form on the ground at them and they don't have to use road salt on them to do that.

Heating subway platforms is a completely different animal altogether because the ends of the tunnel are open and have exhaust ventilation in them for various reason they can't heat the platforms even if they put doors in as it's too high of a cost to maintain heating in them do to the open nature of the tunnels. I don't think there is a transit system anywhere in the world that heats or cools there subway platforms because of how much it would cost in wasted energy to do it.
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not to mention the frequency....in most cases during rush hour a rider may probably be cold for lets say a few minutes until the next train arrives. currently one will have to wait at least 30 min for a go train and even at the future 15 min its still
much longer exposure than someone waiting for a subway or lrt. unless its -30 at which no melters or outdoor heaters would work, one can wait in the cold for 5 min whereas 30 min in a normal winter is actually rsking frostbite and hypothermia.
oyea....from a cost perspective, ECT has many more stops than go train stations that has no heating...
 
How much would it cost to heat the x times more platforms/stops on the Crosstown LRT than that exist on GO lines? One would think an order of magnitude more. And that's likely why there won't be heated stops.

You can drop the whining about second class citizens now. This is beginning to sound like that garbage coming from that guy from Scarborough on the other thread.
 
EastYorkTTCFan said:
I think the shelters for the stops are likely to bee the same as the ones we see on Queens Quay, Spadina, and St. Clare. The only thing they seem to plan to be adding is WiFi to them. Heating them would be a big expense and may attract homeless poel to camp out in them.
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Yeah they are so expensive that the York Region busways have them...
 
Adjei said:
Yeah they are so expensive that the York Region busways have them...
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they have space for them on the busway platforms for them there may not be space on the crosstown platforms for them as it seems like from the artist renderings they are going to be built like streetcar stops
 
EastYorkTTCFan said:
they have space for them on the busway platforms for them there may not be space on the crosstown platforms for them as it seems like from the artist renderings they are going to be built like streetcar stops
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The light rail platforms will be wider than any of the streetcar islands or platforms. From link.

Parameters Proposed Standards
Maximum Operating Speed — 60 km / h
LRT Right-of-way Width — 7.4 m – Midblock
Median Width — TBD
Minimum Grade — 0.5 %
Maximum Grade (LRT) — 5.0 %
Minimum Curve Radius — 25.0 metres
Platform Width
Side platform — 3.0 metres
Centre Platform — 6.0 / 5.0 metres​
Platform Length — 90 metres
Platform Area Grade
Desired — 0.0% (provided that adequate drainage can be provided)
Maximum — 3.0%​
Operating Height (for using pantograph)
Maximum — 6.7 metres from Top of Rail (TOR)
Nominal — 5.5 metres from Top of Rail (TOR)
Minimum — 4.0 metres from Top of Rail (TOR)
​
An average traffic lane width is 3.0 metres, a shared (motor vehicle and bicycle) traffic lane is 4.3 metres. Suburban traffic lanes for buses need 3.3 metres. From link.​
 
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Demolition is progressing at Yonge and Eg. The western building is gone, equipment is closing in on the old shelters.

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