328-358 Dupont at Kendal (Freed, 15 + 29s, ?)

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  1. unimaginative2

    unimaginative2 Senior Member

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    New dwellings planned for Dupont
    DAVID GEORGE-COSH

    August 22, 2007

    The wheels of change are rumbling toward the northern edge of the Annex, one of the city's major property developers says.

    Paul Wynn, who helps run the Wynn Group property management company with his brother Jeffrey, said he is looking into turning the property that stretches from 328 to 356 Dupont St., near Spadina Avenue, into a mixed commercial and residential development.

    Rookie local councillor Adam Vaughan acknowledged that he has met with the Wynn brothers to talk about their plans, but said it will be some time before any formal development process begins.

    "They're trying to figure out what the economics are for all the different types of projects and whether it's even worthy of going forward from there," said Mr. Vaughan (Ward 20, Trinity-Spadina). "I'm going to take them at their word, but at the same time I'm going to make sure that the neighbourhood knows that it's being looked at."

    Mr. Wynn said he appreciates the strategic location of the property: It is large (about 46,000 square feet) and lies close to a subway station. (It is currently occupied by two four-storey buildings that are home to a mix of residential and commercial tenants.) He said he has kicked the tires on an idea to construct a family-oriented "15-storey building with some green space and townhouses ... with bigger apartments, about 1,000 to 1,500 square feet each."

    He says he also considered a proposal for a three-storey big-box retailer with a three-storey parking garage.

    No applications to redevelop the property have been filed yet and Mr. Wynn said he will collaborate with architects, the residents association and business-development groups to determine the best fit for the neighbourhood.

    Robert G. Brown, a director of the Annex Residents' Association, said he looks forward to discussing Mr. Wynn's plans at a meeting that is expected to take place next month.

    "I think there'll be a lot of interest, but I don't think there'll be any significant change in the next three to five years. There's so much going on right now. How many new buildings can this city absorb?" he said.

    While Mr. Wynn decides on how to reshape his property, he said he is mindful of changes brewing in another corner of the Annex - the Honest Ed's building on the corner of Bloor and Bathurst Streets, which many expect to be redeveloped after the passing of Ed Mirvish.

    "I guess that's going to have limited time because the land value is worth more than the business today," Mr. Wynn said. "I have no doubt in my mind that Honest Ed's will not be there five years from now."
     
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  2. Mike in TO

    Mike in TO Senior Member

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    Dupont & Kendal (Annex)

    Preliminary discussion between ratepayers and a Wynn property at Dupont and Kendal abutting the train tracks have commenced. The applicant is interested in a 20-22 floor condo proposal. Land is currently zoned as employment uses and the set-backs (30m) from the railway could prove to be problematic for conversion to residential uses
     
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  3. Sir Novelty Fashion

    Sir Novelty Fashion Senior Member

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    20-22 floors? That's way too tall! That's just across the road from me! Practically my backyard! Can't it go in somebody else's backyard? Is the GTA so flat out of backyards that it's finally come to mine?

    Regardless, 22 floors is still pretty damn big for the neighborhood. Though I suppose proximity to Uno Prii's handiwork will help.
     
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  4. zach(at)spine3d.com

    zach(at)spine3d.com New Member

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    any pics available?
     
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  5. Mike in TO

    Mike in TO Senior Member

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    330 Dupont (Wynn Group, 22 + 36s)

    Proposal by the Wynn Group includes two residential towers (36 and 22 storeys) on four storey podiums that are planned to include retail units, an artist gallery and studio spaces. The proposal includes 384 units.
     
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  6. Towered

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    Dupont is in need of a serious makeover. It's such an ugly street. Too bad this proposal won't get off the ground anytime soon in this economic climate.
     
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    grey Senior Member

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    They appear to be leasing existing space on 330 Dupont for commercial uses.

    I'm not sure how accurate this is, but looks like something's going to be demolished:

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  8. maestro

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    Yeah, and 30 storey highrises are the solution to Dupont's woes.
     
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  9. catcher_of_cats

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    This proposal should and hopefully will get squashed like the bug it is.
     
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  10. marcus_a_j

    marcus_a_j Senior Member

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    Apparently Planning staff will not support this proposal, in which an application hasn't actually been submitted yet according to Adam Vaughan's Ward 20 e-newsletter I received. It also says 36 and 22 storeys.

     
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  11. cdr108

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    ^^^

    I'm glad you found that because I was concerned about the railway lines.
    Most properties along Dupont on the north side are not much longer than 100ft deep but I can't recall if the map grey posted is the actual location since google/yahoo maps can be off.


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    I think the map is correct.
    I just realized that the Wynn Group probably would be demolishing the 2 low rise buildings already there.
     
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  12. interchange42

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    This ridiculous proposal for 22 and 36 storeys in a low-rise neighbourhood on Dupont does not have a hope in hell at either the City or the OMB. Massive changes to the plan will have to be made. Crazy.

    I could see them being allowed to build a dozen storeys here, maybe a couple more than that, but why start so far off the mark to arrive at something around that height.

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  13. greenleaf

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    There are two other threads relating to this property:

    http://www.urbantoronto.ca/showthread.php?t=4687

    http://www.urbantoronto.ca/showthread.php?t=6142

    Building something between 6-10 stories here would be a good way to set a precedent for Dupont, in my opinion.

    At the annex meeting a week or so ago, the developers were really trying to provide the neighborhood with an interesting property. The presented plans that included a doubling of the amount of employment on the site, 40 artists live-work spaces (to be sold at cost!) and 84 of the 384 units in the towers would be three bedroom, providing space for families. They also planned to include a hotel in the east tower.

    Also, the developer played the transit card heavily, noting that the building is about 200m from Dupont station.
     
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  14. Hipster Duck

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    I've heard that the proposal takes the word "slab" to a new level:
     
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  15. interchange42

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    Thanks for the heads-up on the multiple threads Tyler, it has all been brought together now.

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