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12° / 12 Degrees Condos 
25 Beverley St, Toronto
Developer: BSäR Group Of Companies

12 Degrees (15-27 Beverley St., BSÄR Group of Companies, 11s, Core Architects)

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  1. marcus_a_j

    marcus_a_j Senior Member

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    I don't know if there's another thread. I searched but couldn't find one.

    From Adam Vaughan's March 2009 Newsletter

     
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    urbandreamer recession proof

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    IMO the design compliments the newer structures in this neighbourhood. I like it and hope it gets built.
     
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    So this is essentially where the cross-walk is - and would replace all the houses which front onto Beverly? I don't know, the houses have seen better days - it seems interesting that the city is suddenly interested in their preservation now that a building proposal, which includes their demise has come into existence. The buildings in question have essentially seen better days and I am inclined to think that, while they may be historical, that the owners were waiting for this to happen.

    I am not opposed to the development of this building, on another stretch/site, but I think that keeping them intact and restoring them, like the ones being restored on Phoebe is the better route and more interesting one. I like this proposal, but think that it might be better suited along Bulwer..

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    The row of Victorian homes beginning at the crosswalk and continuing south to the first alley are 39-27B Beverley. This development at 15-27 Beverley shouldn't affect them. There are however 2 short, ugly small squarish buildings next to them that are probably the one's cited in the article.
     
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    Again, I'll echo what you guys are saying: great proposal, wrong site.

    REJECT.
     
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    That is hardly worth saving in my mind.

    I would much prefer this modern architeture to the bland low-rise that currently occupies the site. I really wonder why anyone thinks this is in an unappropriate area: there are condo apartments to the west, a retirement home to the south and industrial lofts to the east, not exactly a low-rise residential community?
     

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    If this is the case, then I'm all for the proposal at the height and location.
    The tower just one block further north (south of Grange Park) is definitely taller than 13s, so why not this one?

    Does the density exceed the zoning?
     
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    Perhaps the plan could be modified to preserve 15 Beverley and incorporate a huge spiral staircase emerging from the roof?
     
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    I'd:

    1)Restore these homes

    2)wrap the old homes in a glass box

    3)then build on top
     
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    At the risk of sounding like a barbarian, given the nature+state of these buildings I would a) demolish them and b) build on their ruins.
     
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    Alternatively, the project could incorporate the facade of the 4 houses as the main lobby or something since that means it will definitely be refurbished !

    We've seen several applications (proposed and actual) like Bauhaus, Yonge/St. Nicholas, Kormann House, King's Court, ...
     
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    Though not the primary cause, projects like these still do contribute to the slower than expected population growth that Toronto is currently experiencing. This 13 level building, which sits on already occupied land, will generate the same population growth as a 5 floor building constructed on a vacant lot. It's very possible that at least 70 students live in those houses and will be displaced.

    I would approve the design, scale, and context of this building, but reject it on the grounds that there are many empty lots nearby that are equally developable. Once all vacant lots have been used up, only then would it be appropriate to demolish the existing housing stock.
     
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    Development happens primarily because people who own plots of land wish to develop them. Sometimes a developer will eye a certain property and perhaps buy it from its existing owner with intentions to develop it. The city however, does not go around assessing property with the intentions of planning out how neighborhoods will look etc. This is done in a more general sense since the city does have an Official Plan for development, but as we here on UT know, what actually goes up can vary widely.

    More succinctly, development comes to the city, not from it.
     
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